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Post by eljefe » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:35 am

Gotta come there and trip around a bit Grumpy-my kind of history...
More, later.
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Post by dev » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:40 pm

The elephant was called Bill Laden as he had devastated a lot of homes with amazing stealth. And if anyone traverses a tea estate at night in areas like Sonitpur...its actually darned scary. The nights are pitch black and foggy during the December month. Then when a bull elephant plays hit and run you'll hurl a lot of adjectives about its ancestery. I think Bill Laden was pretty mild.

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eljefe";p="8336 wrote: Where did you get that bit about the 400? I have my reservations about continued usage of the word PH...even more condemning, if he used a 400 cal rifle.
Even more funny is that the elephant was named bin laden, what should the PH be called? the hack of a writer didnt understand the implications of the flip side...could we call him anti animal for desecrating the memory of a magnificent animal and sic PETA on him ?
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Re: professional? hunter?

Post by Sujay » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:35 am

You can see the picture of the professional hunter here

This report suggests that the wrong elephant might have been killed :shock:

The hunter explains why he shot 10 times here

Mr Phukan, a licensed hunter, said: "It was charging towards me and I kept firing. Another few yards and it would have run over me."
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Post by Grumpy » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:04 am

Right....well it`s all clear now then.....NOT !
So the ( possibly/probably ) wrong animal was `charging` towards the PH and he had time to work the bolt ten times......... Some `charge` - some PH ! The man is a rank amatuer and talks a pile of BS !

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Post by dev » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:20 pm

This man is definately new. The real guy has been on discovery and all and I have met him a few times. He normally puts rogues down with one shot. His name is Mr. Dinesh Chaudhury, he also has a bait and tackle type of shop in Guwahati and he is an avid fisherman.

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Post by Sujay » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:35 pm

There is another story unfolding in Purulia district of West Bengal ! Two shikaris are waiting for an elephant ( I won't us the word rouge) to make its apperance. Strange how modern day shikaris " wait " at the comfort of guest houses ?? The elephant however is not showing up and two other elephants have been requisitioned to lure him out .

If he is not showing up , can't they just let him go ?
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Post by TC » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:13 am

Gentlemen checked with a source in the West Bengal Wildlife Department.... According to him Purple Haze used a 416 Rigby. But I cant be sure as this source knows nothing more than a 303 !!!!

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Post by eljefe » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:41 am

Mr Phukan, a licensed hunter, said: "It was charging towards me and I kept firing. Another few yards and it would have run over me." THE NEXT ROGUE YOU GO AFTER MAY DO JUST THAT MR.PH!!

Any one knows how a person is granted 'licenced hunter 'status?
Grumpy, Purple haze just turned "magic fingers" - that looks like a double in the pic-so he stuffed 4 reloads (atleast!)-the reuters pic showed what looked like wounds on trunk and flanks...Thanks Sujay for the pics

TC-416 Rigby indeed never had it so glum-about 4000fpe with the 400 grainers at 100yds? x 10-any body have a calculator handy?
does'nt the army have an 84mm carl Gustav RCL? Mr.PH-definitely a bed pan emptier in another avatar-doesent deserve to hold a bloody catapult, leave alone a heavy rifle.The animal most probably was chased and had several bullets put into him in all parts, over the whole evening.
Should we nominate Mr.PH for "person-most deserving-a-night-scope-to go -to-the-loo"??
Dev-
Its not the adjective used on the elephant that is offensive, but the term Professional hunter used here that is...
Somebody rat on this sicko to the Maneka maniac!
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Re: professional? hunter?

Post by Grumpy » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:42 am

The .416 Rigby with 400 gr bullets makes around 4,990 ft lbs ME, 4,315 ft lbs @ 100 yards.
I`ve never heard of a .416 Rigby double. No doubt somebody, somewhere makes a .416 Rigby double but you can bet that the rifle concerned isn`t a .416 Rigby double.

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Post by Grumpy » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:46 am

I`ve just noticed a glorious typo in Sujays post above:
"Two shikaris are waiting for an elephant ( I won't us the word ROUGE )"
Ah hah ! So pink Elephants really do exist !!!

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Post by dev » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:15 am

So now you like Maneka Gandhi eh? ;-). Too many trips to the toxic swamp eh? Caught a fish called a bream here. Its about eight inches long and ugly as hell. So we released him, bait used was a shrimp. Have just seen loads of yank bait cvalled gulp.

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eljefe";p="8801 wrote: Mr Phukan, a licensed hunter, said: "It was charging towards me and I kept firing. Another few yards and it would have run over me." THE NEXT ROGUE YOU GO AFTER MAY DO JUST THAT MR.PH!!

Any one knows how a person is granted 'licenced hunter 'status?
Grumpy, Purple haze just turned "magic fingers" - that looks like a double in the pic-so he stuffed 4 reloads (atleast!)-the reuters pic showed what looked like wounds on trunk and flanks...Thanks Sujay for the pics

TC-416 Rigby indeed never had it so glum-about 4000fpe with the 400 grainers at 100yds? x 10-any body have a calculator handy?
does'nt the army have an 84mm carl Gustav RCL? Mr.PH-definitely a bed pan emptier in another avatar-doesent deserve to hold a bloody catapult, leave alone a heavy rifle.The animal most probably was chased and had several bullets put into him in all parts, over the whole evening.
Should we nominate Mr.PH for "person-most deserving-a-night-scope-to go -to-the-loo"??
Dev-
Its not the adjective used on the elephant that is offensive, but the term Professional hunter used here that is...
Somebody rat on this sicko to the Maneka maniac!
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Re: professional? hunter?

Post by TC » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:53 pm

Grumpy you are right. As I said this source in the state wildlife department knows nothing more than a .303 !!!
Here the wildlife department downs rogues or other big games with .375 magum. For cats they use 375 or the the IOF 315. They keep some 22 rifles handy as well.

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Post by eljefe » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:13 pm

Rouge as in "moulen"? :)
Dev- madame M is about as close as I can get to using profanities!

Good show on the bream...detox-ed my self in the sihiserh and a couple of other trips-loads of fresh air and good company in the form of Mack The Knife.

Yeah TC-from what I can make out in the pics that Sujay posted, looks like a double.More of a shame if it was a 470 or some such caliber.
Thanks for the math Grumpy-I was guesstimating.
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Post by TC » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:07 pm

Eljefe, It is definitely a double. You are right. Could be a 470. Or may be a 450-400. Its a popular rifle among "hunters". The cartridges for the latter are available in reasonable quantities in this part of the country.

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Post by dev » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:27 pm

Hi Asif,

Let me wish thee a happy new year. Glad to know that you guys had some fun...am hopefully going fishing tomorrow. Heard about a bait called Gulp? You think I should pick it up?

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eljefe";p="8858 wrote: Rouge as in "moulen"? :)
Dev- madame M is about as close as I can get to using profanities!

Good show on the bream...detox-ed my self in the sihiserh and a couple of other trips-loads of fresh air and good company in the form of Mack The Knife.

Yeah TC-from what I can make out in the pics that Sujay posted, looks like a double.More of a shame if it was a 470 or some such caliber.
Thanks for the math Grumpy-I was guesstimating.
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