Need ammo for.351 cal. Winchester self loading rifle.

Vineet · Post by **Vineet** » Sun May 31, 2009 10:10 pm

Need ammo for .351 calibre Winchester self loading rifle made in U.S.A. I tried to find with many dealers but could not find them. Can anybody out there provide any help.

MoA · Post by **MoA** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:04 am

I thought semi-auto's were not easy to get endorsed in India...

That being said the .351 cartridge is pretty much obsolete. I do not believe anyone is manufacturing any ammo for it currently, nor do I think anyone is manufacturing brass or bullets.

You probably would need to to form barss from .357 Maximum and cast your own bullets.

My advise to you since you are in Punjab would be... do not buy the gun. Unless you want a display piece. If you already own the gun, sell it.

Not the news you want to hear... but that is how it is. Sorry.

Here is link for you

Vineet · Post by **Vineet** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:24 am

Thanks for the information.

veer1987 · Post by **veer1987** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:35 pm

i owe a .351 WSL.
what price can i expect if i am sell it off..?
and i wont sell it, if i can find AMMO

-- Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:42 pm --

also i want to know, if i find .357 ammo, and get it custom made to .351...
will the grain value of the bullet not affect the firing/rifle..?
and what grain value is suitable for the W.S.L. .351 cal rifles.?

Post by **cottage cheese** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:11 pm

veer1987 wrote:i owe a .351 WSL.
what price can i expect if i am sell it off..?
and i wont sell it, if i can find AMMO

-- Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:42 pm --

also i want to know, if i find .357 ammo, and get it custom made to .351...
will the grain value of the bullet not affect the firing/rifle..?
and what grain value is suitable for the W.S.L. .351 cal rifles.?

You owe a .351? To whom?

...that's a new one.

That oddity apart, selling a semi-auto/self-loader however you might like to term it, will be difficult since it would fall under Category 1(b), Schedule I of Arms Rules 1962 - In simple words it is classed as a prohibited bore(PB).

Presumably, its endorsed on your license by the MHA as a PB.

Its very very difficult for most Indian citizens to get hold of a PB license....on that count you'll probably have difficulty selling it.

While your rifle's cartridge is Non Prohibited, it'll certainly be less common.

Converting ammunition to another is probably going to be interpreted as 'manufacturing' if one were to go strictly by the rules.

Messing around with ammo with less than reasonable proficiency is not a healthy practice. More so with a recoil operated semi-automatic.

regards,
cc

Vineet · Post by **Vineet** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:15 am

The .351 W. S. L would be sold around Rs.15,000.
The company stopped manufacturing ammo around 40-50 years ago.
A dealer in my knowledge has about 10 cartridges and is asking Rs.350 for each.

veer1987 · Post by **veer1987** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:36 pm

@vineet: plz give me the contact info for tht dealer.
thnx

Vineet · Post by **Vineet** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:25 pm

Check your PM

veer1987 · Post by **veer1987** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:16 pm

thnx.
but he says it is very old ammo, and he will not take responsibility of them properly firing..
any suggestions what should i do?

chucky · Post by **chucky** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:18 pm

By Winchester .351 do u mean the 6 Round Self Loading Rifle made between 1904 and 1908. A friend of mine has that and the guy has been searching for the ammo for the past one whole year, unsuccessful though.

veer1987 · Post by **veer1987** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:01 am

ya..
tht one..

CZHarry · Post by **CZHarry** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:07 pm

Here's a wikipedia link about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.351_Winch ... lf-Loading

And some collector info on the rifle. (halfway down the page.
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin ... bcatID=188

And more info from this site. "A Custom Reloader of Obsolete and Antique Ammo, Bob Shell, writes about the subject of Guns, Ammo, Shooting and Related Subjects."
http://bobshellsblog.blogspot.com/2008/ ... oader.html

And more historical info from another enthusiast.
Shakey Pete's Shootin' Shack
http://shakeypete.blogspot.com/2009/10/ ... other.html

hsgoldy77 · Post by **hsgoldy77** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:54 am

Hi Vineet.. Do u want to sell ur 351 WSl rifle,, If u r interested in selling this weapon pls tell me soon..
I m frm ludhiana Punjab, I think u also belong to punjab.. so contact me soon, as i already saw one in rajasthan, otherwise i have to go to Rajasthan on monday..
Thanks..
Goldy Grewal

hsgoldy77 · Post by **hsgoldy77** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:26 pm

There was one Gun House i.e Mahakali Arms Store in Mathura, He told us that ammo for 351WSL is available at Jaipur, So contact him for details about the Gun House at Jaipur.

prashantsingh · Post by **prashantsingh** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:35 pm

I inherited a Mannlicher .355 .(along with 15 odd carts). Inspite of beings really old they fired well.
Sold it soon after the Ammo got over.
Asked a Gun dealer the price (of ammo). Was told Rs 450 /= for a cartridge.
And this is almost 10 years ago. Wonder what they would cost today?

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