What air-rifles and air-pistols do you have or have had?

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:08 pm

Ranjeet Singh wrote:still quite some time to go.. I guess I will happy with either:)

Not if you buy the Diana.......I'll keep needling you.

Nothing wrong with the HW35, it's an airgunning classic but to pick that over some of the other HWs.....

Ranjeet Singh · Post by **Ranjeet Singh** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:50 pm

Hi Mehul,

I haven't yet got a chance to hunt and frankly, I am not aware of the hunting laws anywhere in the world.

I did call another friend of mine, whom I have met at the trap shooting instructions to check if he knew about the Air rifle hunting rules here.

He told me that Air guns are not welcome as they too underpowdered for a clean kill. I mentioned Quackenbush, he wasn't aware of this, which I got to know from you:)

The Gentleman I was mentioning in my previous post works at Frankonia Jagd is pretty senior in age and has a hunter's license .
I keep bugging him asking him which air-gun is better, with his limited knowledge of english, he said "the one which gets the job done".

Well, as you require a Firearm License or Waffenbesitzkarte as it is called here for even airguns of caliber 5.5 mm and for 4.5 mm if they shoot over 175 m/s. I guess they won't use one for hunting here - one would rather buy a firearm if one has the permit.

I am here in Munich for about 20 months now. Next time you plan to be around Munich, I would be very happy to have a beer with you:)

Thanks
Ranjeet

Ranjeet Singh · Post by **Ranjeet Singh** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:02 pm

Hi Mack The Knife,

hmmm, I hope you could join me when we shop around...I have already checked up with Murtuza, he said he could get me either of them in a month's time whenever I order..

BTW, you can get a very well maintained HW 35 here for 80-100 Euros...

These days I am spending more money at the Trap...

That reminds me to post a question in the right forum..

Thanks
Ranjeet

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:28 pm

Ranjeet Singh wrote:I have already checked up with Murtuza, he said he could get me either of them in a month's time whenever I order..

Standard sales spiel. Do NOT pay an advance.

Buy the HW35 at the price quoted above. Especially one with a carbine barrel (16") - if you can get one. The standard length suffers from barrel droop and can make your scope run out of elevation unless you use mounts with barrel droop compensation. As far as possible I avoid shimming scope mounts.

Mack The Knife

Ranjeet Singh · Post by **Ranjeet Singh** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:23 pm

Thanks Again, Mack The Knife, I'll keep that in mind.

About the longer barrel...I remember in our previous discussions, you had mentioned that shorter barrels because of the shorter lock time give better accuracy.

Any idea why in the first place the HW 35, export models came with longer barrels? would again improve my understanding...I have read about shotgun barrel lengths where previously it was powder burning slowly and then pointability improvement considerations with barrel lengths upto 81 cms or even 84.

Is it something like to attain full velocity a longer barrel is better in airguns- longer push - more velocity with the drawback of barrel droop ?

Or am I completely wrong - in the sense longer barrel more friction and lesser velocity...

Which way is the reasoning?

Regards
Ranjeet

Sujay · Post by **Sujay** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:51 pm

Ranjeet Singh wrote:Hi Sujay,

there are many people out there who are into some serious airgunning. And maybe you and Mack The Knife are also into it big time.

Thanks
Ranjeet

Thanks Ranjeet !

For the 'feel good' factor when counted alongside Mack The Knife

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:54 pm

Ranjeet Singh wrote:Thanks Again, Mack The Knife, I'll keep that in mind.

About the longer barrel...I remember in our previous discussions, you had mentioned that shorter barrels because of the shorter lock time give better accuracy.

Any idea why in the first place the HW 35, export models came with longer barrels? would again improve my understanding...I have read about shotgun barrel lengths where previously it was powder burning slowly and then pointability improvement considerations with barrel lengths upto 81 cms or even 84.

Is it something like to attain full velocity a longer barrel is better in airguns- longer push - more velocity with the drawback of barrel droop ?

Or am I completely wrong - in the sense longer barrel more friction and lesser velocity...

Which way is the reasoning?

Regards
Ranjeet

Must be a HW35 day. A gent came over with two air-rifles asking me to get them back on song and one of them happens to be a '35.

Back in the 70's and early 80's long barrel air-rifles were all the rage. This was based on the false notion that longer barrels improve accuracy. They do but not at airgun ranges or even rimfire ranges.

Once the father of airgun boffins, Gerald Cardew, (born in Nainital, India, incidentally), had proved that a pellet in a 12 ft.lbs. air-rifle reaches peak acceleration within 10", the tide turned towards short barrels. Today, Theoben offer a carbine with a 7" barrel.

If you are technically inclined you can still pick up Cardew's book on the subject - The Airgun From Trigger To Target.

Hope that clears things a bit.

Mack The Knife

Ranjeet Singh · Post by **Ranjeet Singh** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:29 pm

ok, the Longer barrels were just fashion..Great!

now I am more informed:)

Regards
Ranjeet

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:13 pm

Ranjeet Singh wrote:now I am more informed:)

Good! That will 100 Euros please.

Ranjeet Singh · Post by **Ranjeet Singh** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:04 pm

you mean one (used) HW 35, for figuring out why it has a longer barrel.. too darn expensive....

And you don't even say anything good about Diana 52

..

Ranjeet

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:06 pm

hamiclar01 · Post by **hamiclar01** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:04 am

seem to have crashed in the party a bit late. never mind, here's me declaring my loot.

IHP 35 in .22, which was the gun i learnt shooting on. been with me for years, no problems at all, open sights

air arms pro sport in .177, scoped with a hawke 7X40. i have to say i'm so smitten by this gun, the looks, the handling, the accuracy, that i think my buck stops here. tad heavier than the IHP, and takes a mansize effort to cock the underlever, but no complaints in shooting .

anand

Post by **kanwar76** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:25 pm

Hmmm I am late but better late than never....

Here's what i had till date

* My first air rifle Diana .22 break barrel . Its a very small gun, Don't know its model number but this is the most accurate gun i ever shot.. (but then i haven't shot many

)

* National Air rifle 35 mod .22, .177 break barrel- Got six of these (Now Distributed among cousins)
* Bhatti underlever .22 made in jodhpur.
* Ruby 75 mod .22 breakbarrel.
* Venom DIY kit fitted Diana 52 .22 with a Bushnell Legend 5*15*40 mildot on top of it.
* One break barrel (perhaps chienese) .177 pistol.

Inder

Post by **dev** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:21 pm

Air rifles:
IHP Model 35 Maccari spring
Crosman model 2100

Air Pistols:
Crosman 1008

IZH Bailkal 46M

Since I have such a small collection please feel free to chuck yours my way

Great site guys this is fabulous.

Regards,

Dev

ravindrareddym · Post by **ravindrareddym** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:37 pm

I Require Air Rifles & Psitols

If anyone has one for sale .

Pls contact me.

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