Using 20 guage and .22 rounds in a 12 bore shotgun

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:46 pm

Ive read around that the 12 guage can accommodate "inserts / Adapters" to fire .22 or 20 guage rounds.
Are these available in India and is it legal to use it.
Has anyone here used it?
Any input will be appreciated.

Thank you.
/S/

nagarifle · Post by **nagarifle** » Wed May 21, 2008 4:06 pm

hi sniper

we do get barrel conversion kit ie say u have 5.56 rifle and u can get a kit which contains barrel insert and block etc its 2 min job to change the cal. via this method.

not sure about the shotguns but i do not see much difficulty in these. sorry i can not answer the legal question on this.

Post by **Vikram** » Wed May 21, 2008 4:34 pm

Sniper, There in deed are sub-gauge tubes that can be inserted into a 12 bore gun.You can shoot 20,28,.410.

Check these links.

http://www.briley.com/index.asp?PageAct ... tom&ID=102

http://www.briley.com/ProductImages/tub ... 6,1,Briley

The same with rifles.

Re legal aspect, Monsieur SSS can enlighten us.

Best-
Vikram

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:08 pm

What about usage in India. Any users here?

nagarifle · Post by **nagarifle** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:35 pm

is not 410 on the PB list

Post by **Vikram** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:53 pm

Some detailed info

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... i_n8709806

Naga, no idea.

Best-
Vikram

Post by **cottage cheese** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:29 pm

Strictly speaking an sub-caliber adapter will be regarded as a separate firearm...after all you'll need a .22 license to purchase .22 shots legally

It would be an interesting mental exercise trying to explain how you have .22 shots in absence of a license... in a country where mere possession of a single unlicensed firearm bullet can get you into a lot of trouble.

Yes .410 is PB- at least the Arms Act is clear on this...

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:43 pm

If im not mistaken a .410 shotgun is very much allowed.

Post by **cottage cheese** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:05 pm

snIPer";p="44236 wrote:If im not mistaken a .410 shotgun is very much allowed.

Well snIPer...I probably missed a notification or two... I was just quoting the Arms Act...

Here it is word for word:

Section 1(c)

"Bolt action or semi-automatic rifles of .303" or 7.62mm bore or any other bore which can chamber and fire service ammunition of .303" or 7.62mm, calibre; muskets, of .410 bore or any other bore which can fire .410"musket ammunition; pistols, revolvers or cartridges of any bore which can fire .380" or .455" rimmed cartridges or service 9mm, or .45" rimless cartridges"

Note that the use of the word musket does not necessarily apply to muzzle loaders- They have those old 303's re-barreled and and converted to single shot in the hands of the police. They still make their grand appearance every once in a while. Ammunition stocks are still plentiful but old.

regards,
cc

Post by **eljefe** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:25 pm

Grey area i think, the 410.
Govt/police 410 'musket' is a single lead ball loaded on a ? 303 'blown up' brass
410 for the rest of the world. is a SHOTGUN cartridge. So how come 410 as per govt de.scription embraces anything in 410? Both -the Govt 410 musket ammo and civvy 410 are not interchangeable -To the best of my memory...
go figure!!

Post by **cottage cheese** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:05 pm

eljefe";p="44238 wrote:Grey area i think, the 410.
Govt/police 410 'musket' is a single lead ball loaded on a ? 303 'blown up' brass
410 for the rest of the world. is a SHOTGUN cartridge. So how come 410 as per govt de.scription embraces anything in 410? Both -the Govt 410 musket ammo and civvy 410 are not interchangeable -To the best of my memory...
go figure!!

Ah! 'jefe sahib! thanks for the info... looks like another babu-rich territory...

vishosingh · Post by **vishosingh** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:11 pm

the 410 is a npb gun
i have one endorsed on my liscence it is made by c pavey and sons england

nagarifle · Post by **nagarifle** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:14 pm

opps i think i just opened a can of worms with 410 cal

for the nest can of worms the 303 handgun used by bandits etc. well not lea gel to start with as its home made thus still ill eagle

even shotgun can be made into hand guns but they are still classified as shotguns.

nagarifle

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:36 pm

I think it would be better referred to as the 64 bore instead of 410 shotgun.

nagarifle · Post by **nagarifle** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:39 pm

as u wish

let it be known to one and all that from now on .410 will be known as 64 bore

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