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pellet seater advantage

Post by pratik_mahale » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:06 pm

Advantage of pellet seater in my IHP 35 .177

Normal reading without Pellet seating

Pellets Used Shot 1 Shot 2 Shot 3 Shot 4 Shot 5 Avg
Keihberg 670 679 677 672 674 675
RWS 706 705 701 694 710 703
Diana Shot 641 637 625 634 648 637


Reading after Pellet seating

Pellets Used Shot 1 Shot 2 Shot 3 Shot 4 Shot 5 Avg
Keihberg 711 710 711 713 717 712
RWS 748 744 745 747 748 746
Diana Shot 719 709 714 711 716 714


You can see the increase in FPS is Diana Shot is about 77 FPS around 10 -12 %.
In Keihberg & RWS increase in FPS is 35 to 45 that is around 5 -6 %.

So without tuning the air gun we can increase the FPS around 10 % on Indian make pellets

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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by Basu » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:26 pm

Dear Pratik,
It may be a small , but very nice research work being done by you.
Diana shot, to my mind, is not available in this part of the country.
I wish , in case you make same research for Gsmith or Mastershot, that would be of lot of help for all of us .Thanks a lot.

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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by namcmd » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:44 pm

Basu wrote:Dear Pratik,
It may be a small , but very nice research work being done by you.
Diana shot, to my mind, is not available in this part of the country.
I wish , in case you make same research for Gsmith or Mastershot, that would be of lot of help for all of us .Thanks a lot.

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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by pratik_mahale » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:30 pm

I don’t have Gsmith or Mastershot pellets
Where I will get Mastershot wadcutters export quality .177 pellets in Mumbai

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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by RamMani » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:41 pm

Advantage of pellet seater in my IHP 35 .177
what is pellet seater?
Please Explain........

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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by brihacharan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:37 pm

[quote="pratik_mahale"
> I don’t have Gsmith or Mastershot pellets
> Where I will get Mastershot wadcutters export quality .177 pellets in Mumbai[/quote]

Hi Pratik,

> Master shot Export / Match Grade pellets are available in 0.177 with M/s. BANSONS at Abdul Rehman St. This shop is above Taher Arms - On the 1st floor = You can see the b0ard from the street.
> G Smith is available with Taher Arms.
> Where did you get the Pellet Seater from?
> In case you cant get these pellets from the above shops - IFGian Prasanjit Baul can spare you some - contact him on his PM.
> BTW _ I'm impressed with your FPS Results.
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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by pratik_mahale » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:51 am

Thanks Briha Sir I will try to get mastershot pellets

Regarding pellet seater when I was doing basic shooting course in Veer Savarker we use to push pellets into the barrel using screw driver
Please check the link for very cheap pellet seater can be used with .177 & .22
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/th ... let+seater

Today only I brought this stereo jack from Lamington Road for Rs. 10/- & tested it with Diana shot pellets readings in fps 700,696,681,691,702
When I use small screw driver I am getting average FPS around 714 means this stereo jack is not pushing the pellets perfectly to get max FPS
As per my R&D we need to push the pellets around 5 mm deep inside the barrel to get max FPS

Please read this blog for the advantage of pellet seater
http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/bl ... et-seater/


Briha Sir I have brought one stereo jack for you & for other IFGians this stereo jack is easily available in any electronics shop

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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by AK49 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:08 pm

In my humble opinion any ballpen can be used as a pellet seater and I think it pushes the pellet just enough to get the desired results.
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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by jp1 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:15 am

Pellet seaters may well improve the FPS but more so importantly it will aid in accuracy. However impovements are slight and therefore not necessary for the casual shooter but something rather more for the avid professional shot.

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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by brihacharan » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:01 am

pratik_mahale wrote:Thanks Briha Sir I will try to get mastershot pellets

Regarding pellet seater when I was doing basic shooting course in Veer Savarker we use to push pellets into the barrel using screw driver
Please check the link for very cheap pellet seater can be used with .177 & .22
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/th ... let+seater

Today only I brought this stereo jack from Lamington Road for Rs. 10/- & tested it with Diana shot pellets readings in fps 700,696,681,691,702
When I use small screw driver I am getting average FPS around 714 means this stereo jack is not pushing the pellets perfectly to get max FPS
As per my R&D we need to push the pellets around 5 mm deep inside the barrel to get max FPS

Please read this blog for the advantage of pellet seater
http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/bl ... et-seater/


Briha Sir I have brought one stereo jack for you & for other IFGians this stereo jack is easily available in any electronics shop
Hi Pratik,
> Very interesting blog on "Pellet Seater" - Thanks.
> I only wonder if "Pellet Seating" is popular with air gunners? :roll:
> If only one can consistently get "Quality Pellets" with proper dimensions - we can do away with Pellet Pusher / Seater.
> Thanks for the "Stereo Jack" - would definitely try and use it :D
> I would like to drop in at your place to check my Samurai's FPS with various Brand / Weights of pellets - will call before to fix date & time.
Briha

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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by pratik_mahale » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:35 pm

Hi JP
Normally after tuning air rifle we get 10-15 % increase in velocity & you need a good gunsmith for that plus you have to spend at list Rs. 3000/- for it.
But using pellet seater you are getting 10 % increase in velocity plus as you say aid in accuracy without any investment.
So why don’t use this simple technique.

Hi AK49
Yes any ball pen can be used as a pellet seater
But stereo jack can very handy tool for fixing bent pellet skirts


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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by snIPer » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:31 pm

Here is an alternative -
if you are consistently using one brand of pellet that refuses to sit well into the breech then apart from using a pellet seater you can slightly widen the breech hole by using some fine emery, i personally know someone who has done this oh his IHP and this has resulted in Gsmith pellets being seated flush with the breech, performance has improved after this.
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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by brihacharan » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:59 pm

[quote="snIPer"]
Here is an alternative - if you are consistently using one brand of pellet that refuses to sit well into the breech then apart from using a pellet seater you can slightly widen the breech hole by using some fine emery, i personally know someone who has done this oh his IHP and this has resulted in Gsmith pellets being seated flush with the breech, performance has improved after this. You could try.

Hi there!
> Good suggestion - however if you widen the breech to accomodate GSmith pellets, the others viz. Mastershot / Dianashot etc. may wind up fitting loose - in which case you may have to use a "Pellet Seater".
> If this is OK by you - well the choice is yours.
> The whole idea is to get maximum velocity without compromising on accuracy - if this means 'sticking' to one type / brand of pellet - so be it!
> Enjoy your shooting / plinking et. al.
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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by snIPer » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:14 am

True Briha, thats why i mentioned - if you are consistently using one brand of pellet that refuses to sit well into the breech.
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Re: pellet seater advantage

Post by Basu » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:29 am

hi pratik, is there any more trial with gmith or mastershot? if you are done with that,pl post the same.by the way ,do you have same main spring which comes with the stock or any other. Basu
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