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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by brihacharan » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:28 pm

Kazim wrote:Briha ji is the pcp you have mentioned peep sight fitted?if yes then it will be a great help for budding shooters like me who can't afford a 1.2lakh rs AR
> The design & drawing for the 'Peep Sight' are underway....
> When the AR hits the market it should also be available.
> The idea is to offer the shooter the option of Rear + Front Sights, Peep Sight & Scope.
> Regular sights + Scope mounting facility are already there, Peep Sight can be added if desired.
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by varunik » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:56 pm

Briha ji, will this great guy sell it online or will only distribute to shops?
I ask this because, shop keepers generally ask 40-60% more than the MRP
Or can he sell on IFG?
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by namcmd » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:17 pm

varunik wrote:Nitro piston!!!! India!!! Man! I am witnessing history!!
dream.... :roll:
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by brihacharan » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:32 pm

varunik wrote:Briha ji, will this great guy sell it online or will only distribute to shops?
I ask this because, shop keepers generally ask 40-60% more than the MRP
Or can he sell on IFG?
> Hey! Hey! Hey! Just hold it guys - Don't Jump The Gun :roll:
> The manufacturer is NECK DEEP with a host of things right now - Pl give the guy TIME.
> Someone spilled the beans & people have started asking questions left / right & centre :P
> I do not know about On-Line Sale - haven't asked the mfr. Also won't till the FINAL PRODUCT is ready for the market.
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by TC » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:39 pm

brihacharan wrote:
varunik wrote:Briha ji, will this great guy sell it online or will only distribute to shops?
I ask this because, shop keepers generally ask 40-60% more than the MRP
Or can he sell on IFG?
> Hey! Hey! Hey! Just hold it guys - Don't Jump The Gun :roll:
> The manufacturer is NECK DEEP with a host of things right now - Pl give the guy TIME.
> Someone spilled the beans & people have started asking questions left / right & centre :P
> I do not know about On-Line Sale - haven't asked the mfr. Also won't till the FINAL PRODUCT is ready for the market.
Briha

I fully agree Briha. No good job was done in a day. Thanks for the great feedback. I look forward to these rifles.

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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by airgun_novice » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:28 pm

@all - sorry for not responding earlier. But brihji's put in pretty much what is required for information dissemination. I did not respond since I didn't want to reveal more than what should be kept under wraps for the time being. For Mumbaikars - a prototype is for use at Savarkar Smarak Range, Dadar. :-) I have had the honor of being among the first with brihji to try out all the prototypes on both the AP and AR targets and in .177 and in .22. So to reveal an open secret - I am in line. :-) Incidentally, I have also had the honor of witnessing history being made at its various stages, be it the barrel or the trigger or the stock (glass impregnated abrasion/ heat resistant polycarbonate) material - try "sanding" the "plastic" -> guaranteed to take your breath away! :lol: The designer is fully concerned about quality. To cite an example -> During the very initial phase he handed me over a barrel and ask me to find flaw in it. So I ran the usual "checks" i.e. peered through the muzzle end then the breech end like a telescope; kept it on a flat window sill; then on the table and yet detected nothing. But the good designer had written REJECT on it with black perm marker. I gave up and he very patiently explained that someplace about 2/3rds the length there was a slight (tiniest) fluctuation in the inner diameter. "Normally" it would not matter much but what was to be made had to be of "match grade". Matter over !!! :-) The laser etching (make name, #s etc.) on the receiver itself speaks volumes about the passion that has gone into the manufacture. Again, I had the honor of being given the receiver in hand with "different" types of laser etches and asked - "What do you think?" After visual inspection and then shutting my eyes, I ran the pad of index finger over different "fonts" (so to speak) and zeroed on one. His answer - "My choice too. But even that has to be a little bit extra smooth - the laser can penetrate a few microns less". I knew - I had to wait to get a piece that shall give the *phoren* makes a run for their money. That's about quality - now a bit of info about the thought that's gone into the design. Imagine your springer can be simply converted into a nitro by a simple switch of action within the receiver - as simple as what one would do while changing the spring or piston seal. BTW, the fps had to be lowered even from the consistent 720-740 for .22 to bring it within the "realm" of permissible energy and required accuracy. But remember we are looking at a *match grade* item. If so, what should one expect ? Accuracy and consistency, right ?

So "shraddha saburi" is the key phrase. A few more weeks and you can find out for yourself. :-)

@dev -> what can I say ? You scored #10.9 ;-)

@tirpassion -> There is the prototype PCP and even the nitro/ ram jet - but the focus is to be on springers for now (read next 6-9 months). There has to be a growth in market share for the "expansion". No plans as yet for an exclusive PCP AP - but don't worry; I will keep up with the *follow-through* (request) on behalf of our relatively small AP community. ;-) BTW he's instrumental in IHP's new PCP AP and AR. Saw a guy use it (AP) one place; pretty good. Except for the fixed cylinder, saw no other "requirement change". 2-3 guys on IFG own that piece too - there's being some positive feedback about it.

@brihji -> Planning to be back on Jul 5th or 6th. Do we RV the Sat of Jul 7th ? :-)
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by brihacharan » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:51 pm

Hi AGN,
brihji -> Planning to be back on Jul 5th or 6th. Do we RV the Sat of Jul 7th ?
> Sounds GOOD :D
> Better inform the rest of the gang :P
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by essdee1972 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:36 pm

Having used the guns (only once :cry:) with Airgun_novice and Brihacharan, I second all they say. And, needless to say, I am in the queue! A break barrel as soon as I can get it, ditto a PCP. The latter will be good for the kid to start off!

Briha sir & AGN, am game. Will contact through PM.
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by lakecity_shooter » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:12 pm

Katana wrote:If this does happen, would the 'concerned gentleman' please reserve one each for me and my son?! :wink:

Way to go! Really appreciate this. :cheers:


For me too......When it(Air rifle) hits the market it wil be a great help for peaple like me who are seeking a airgun with a affordable price for entering into competitive shooting ....... :wink:
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by dev » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:13 pm

Vary goods news hai, you could also reveal that the good Doc pioneered the IHP brand designs specially the pcp versions. Thank God he is the one. This will actually shake things up and I hope the fun factor in owning a nice air rifle. Oh...I scored 10.9, time open that baaaattle thanks Agn bro ;-).
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by varunik » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:09 pm

Well, you know.. the title of "Father of Indian Air rifles" is still unclaimed. If the ARs are really that good.. you never know.. we might be having a fan site :D
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You trade your passion for glory
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Of our rival
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by airgun_novice » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:23 am

Shooter@ktm wrote:[SNIP]

Thanks bro... I had droped my plan of importing a diana air-king...!!! :D
I was aksing can you compare the rifle's 'weight only' with IHP 35...
As a target shooter, main concern ought to be directed towards weight/ heft including balance rather than just weight. Will a heavier AR help in a 40-shot OS match or a lighter, irrespective of whether one is build like Rambo ? Or conversely, will a lighter AR have the necessary balance to be consistent and accurate all those 40 shots (plus a few on the sighter)? And of course there's the Natural Point of Aim which mostly depends on the way the metal is placed on/ in the stock. This technical domain can best be explained in details by an air rifle shooter like FF2003 or gverma.

Anyway to answer your Qn in short - this AR will be somewhat lighter than N35 simply because the wooden stock is replaced by a synthetic one; even if everything of metal is molded/ die-cast rather than welded, glued or drilled like the IHP N25/35.

I own an IHP 25 myself and have handled an N35 a few times - both in .177. The piece under discussion were of better balance bda shot and though I am almost a bottom rung player when it comes to ARs, I could still say I was satisfied with my shot placement and grouping with that newly developed springer.

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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by Katana » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:40 am

I suppose this is none other than Dr. Shrisat( I hope have his name correct)! I had used a PCP manufactured by IHP that was designed by him and was pretty much amazed by its performance. However, a point to note is that designing something like this and manufacturing it are two different things. The best plaid plans sometimes go awry because of the executioners. It would be prudent if he makes them himself rather than farming out the design to an independent manufacturer.
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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by Big Daddy » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:00 pm

Hi Briha and airgun_novice,

Thanks for the info. You had mentioned the NP version. Is this part imported or locally made?
Looks like the manufacturer (i am beginning to wonder if i know who he is :D ) has really invested some dough in his dream project.
Another person from down south is manufacturing power plants (including 2 stage triggers) for IHP.The power plants seem to be good. Hope to test it shortly.
I'm sure you know whom i meam Briha :)

At last India is beginning to produce the long awaited and I guess the best that the rest of us can do is wait and pray that common sense prevails among the babus involved in the required sanctions.

Ps. One thing that would be interesting is to see the impact of the spring re-coil on the gun in the long run.

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Re: Indian made airrifle

Post by brihacharan » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:08 pm

Big Daddy wrote:Hi Briha and airgun_novice,

Thanks for the info. You had mentioned the NP version. Is this part imported or locally made?
Looks like the manufacturer (i am beginning to wonder if i know who he is :D ) has really invested some dough in his dream project.
Another person from down south is manufacturing power plants (including 2 stage triggers) for IHP.The power plants seem to be good. Hope to test it shortly.
I'm sure you know whom i meam Briha :)

At last India is beginning to produce the long awaited and I guess the best that the rest of us can do is wait and pray that common sense prevails among the babus involved in the required sanctions.
PS. One thing that would be interesting is to see the impact of the spring re-coil on the gun in the long run.
BD
> The NP is "DITTO" Theoben in design & manufacture - not imported - but made here! The concerned person has been in personal touch (physically) with M/s Theobalt / Benjamin (THEOBEN)
> I've tested the NP prototype - Very Good!
> Re: the person from down south and his creation (another world class product) is almost ready - tests have been conducted - amazing results - will be in my possession soon!
> At last AR lovers need not look beyond our shores - These creations can give the Dianas / Weihrauchs / Walthers etc. a run for their money. :D
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