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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by Mack The Knife » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:42 pm

Hi Ranjeet,

Here's the list to get you started. There's far too many manufacturers and models, so I am going to stick with what I use or know off. We will also forget about big mahseer, rohu, etc. for the moment and start with just a general spinning set up. This will get you murral, rohu, small mahseer, tilapias, etc. Once you have tried your hand at fishing in April, you can then decide whether you want to invest more in the sport or just sell your tackle and get out of it.

Spinning Rod:

Choice # 1: Shimano Beastmaster SBMAX210M spinning rod.
http://fish.shimano-eu.com/catalog/fish ... 1456609375

Choice # 2: Shimano Forcemaster SFM210M spinning rod.
http://fish.shimano-eu.com/catalog/fish ... 1456609375

Choice # 3: Shimano Nexave SNEXBX210M spinning rod.
http://fish.shimano-eu.com/catalog/fish ... 1456609375

Choice # 4: Shimano Catana SCATBX210M spinning rod.
http://fish.shimano-eu.com/catalog/fish ... 1456609375

Choice # 5: Shimano Alivio SALAX210M spinning rod.
http://fish.shimano-eu.com/catalog/fish ... 1456609375


Note: All of the following items have been selected from Cabelas.


Spinning Reel:

Choice # 1: Shimano Symetre SY4000RI or SY4000FI
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... hasJS=true

Choice # 2: Shimano Spirex SR4000RE.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... hasJS=true


Monofilament Fishing Line:

Berkley Trilene Big Game Fishing Line - 1/4-Lb. Spool
Item Number: IH-110633
COLOR:GREEN
TEST:12#

Spinners:

Mepps® Plain Aglia® Spinners
Item Number: IH-110840
COLOR: SILVER
SIZE:3

Mepps® Plain Aglia® Spinners
Item Number: IH-110840
COLOR: SILVER
SIZE:4


Floats:

Premier Steelhead Stalker™ Floats
Item Number: IH-119427
SIZE:1/4 OZ


Snaps:

Cabela's Premium Duolock Snaps - Black
Item Number: IH-113061
SIZE:11/16"


Swivels:

Cabela's Black Live Bait Swivels - Per 36
Item Number: IH-110537
SIZE:5


Hooks:

Matzuo Octopus Hooks - Red Chrome
Item Number: IH-117548
SIZE:4

Matzuo Octopus Hooks - Red Chrome
Item Number: IH-117548
SIZE:2

Matzuo Octopus Hooks - Red Chrome
Item Number: IH-117548
SIZE:6

Lead weight:

Cabela's Hollow
Item Number: IH-113046
SIZE:1/8"

I will make you leaders out of 40 lb. monofilament line.

Just in case you decide to order a rod from Cabelas, let me know and I will recommend a few.

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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by kanwar76 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:54 pm

Thanks Mack The Knife, That is very useful info for any budding angler. Can we make it a sticky somehow.

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Post by Mack The Knife » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:27 pm

No!

This may be okay for the WASI stretch but not necessarily other waters and fish.

Also bear in mind that this info comes from someone who is still a neophyte.

For those seeking better guidance there is always www.indianangler.com

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Post by eljefe » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:31 pm

Thanks for posting the list Mack The Knife, atleast there's ready info for the numerous queries /hits this is going to get..see that you've changed to matzuo from mustad...better results?
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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by Mack The Knife » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:27 pm

see that you've changed to matzuo from mustad...better results?
Never seen a Matzuo hook but if you recall, Mystic Murral from Texas used to sing it's praises on IA. Since Navdeep gave me a budget to work to, I chose these as they were cheaper than the Mustad Ultra Points.
Thanks for posting the list Mack The Knife, atleast there's ready info for the numerous queries /hits this is going to get.
That's precisely what I am afraid off. I don't want newcomers to buy something that may not suitable for their waters. The above list should be considered as a reply to Ranjeet's request only.

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Post by eljefe » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:50 am

Ho Mack The Knife,
Whats wrong with a basic spinning outfit? I think your list is great for a newbie.
Basic rod & reel of 12-17lbs, add lighter or heavier line, and change hooks and one should get away with most common fishing, what say? Most of us newbies would want a few dozen mentored trips to learn the ropes added to practice on the aquarium using chilwa hooks before progressing...:)
Was wondering about Matzuo and mustad , remind me to give you some ghaziabad hooks when we meet next-the locals load thses with worm and use them on hand lines-deadly strike rate!
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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by Mack The Knife » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:59 pm

Whats wrong with a basic spinning outfit?
Nothing so long as it isn't used for the big stuff. Otherwise the clueless wonder will have his rod broken and then hold me responsible.
Most of us newbies would want a few dozen mentored trips to learn the ropes.
Absolutely no question about that and I have been very fortunate in that regard. However, one wouldn't be too bright if one required a few dozen trips to learn the ropes. :mrgreen:

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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by penpusher » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:12 pm

Asif,

After Holi sounds good.Going now might lead to a premature demise for your enthusiasm for fishing :lol:
Check out this link http://www.nivalink.com/jungle/mahaseer.html.

If you want to rough it out a bit,I can check about the BBMB guest house. Otherwise Judge's Court seems to promise a comfortable stay.

Coming to Patiala would add an hour to our travel time to Pong but I think it would be worth it.So it can be,

1.Friday evening Delhi-Ambala-Rajpura-Patiala (4.5 -5hrs)

2.Saturday early morning Patiala-Pong Dam(4-5 hrs)

3.Sunday Pong Dam

4.Monday Pong Dam-Delhi


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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by penpusher » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:24 pm

This can be another option http://www.countrycottageindia.com/activities.asp

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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by Ranjeet Singh » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:00 pm

Thanks a lot Mack The Knife for taking the time out to create the list for me.

I would do a round of the local shops over the weekend and see what is locally available and would try to stick to what you have suggested.

Thanks Again
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Post by Mack The Knife » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:58 pm

No sweat. Let me know what you find. Try your local Askari (a chain like Frankonia) if you have one in Munich.

They carry a lot of Chinese made tackle but don't get put off by that as a helluva lot of tackle is now made in China.

A websearch before hand may save you some time.

All the best.

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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by Ranjeet Singh » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:12 pm

Mack The Knife Bana";p="12532 wrote:No sweat. Let me know what you find. Try your local Askari (a chain like Frankonia) if you have one in Munich.
They carry a lot of Chinese made tackle but don't get put off by that as a helluva lot of tackle is now made in China.
A websearch before hand may save you some time.
All the best.
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Hi Mack The Knife, for lack of time, I couldn't do this earlier, however last weekend, I spent some time in a shop exclusive for angling called Fisherman's Friend.

I saw a lot of rods from German Companies and of course Shimano, but Shimano was not telescopic- at least not in stock

And had a little chat with the owner- he told the following about lenghts of rods

1) He suggested I buy something about 2.7 m long, rather than 2.1 m that you have suggested.
Do you think it makes sense? or are there too many bushes to use a 2.7 m long?

2) I saw a lot of brands for the spinning wheel- Abu Gracia being very common as well as Shimano..
Should i go for a german brand, can't recall the names they have lots of them

Let me know what you think about the rod length, I need to buy something soon.

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Re: Basics of Fishing rods

Post by Mack The Knife » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:07 am

Ranjeet,

Go with the dealers recommendation if you want to fish in Germany. However, if you can only have one rod spin with on the WASI stretch, then follow my suggestions. It's not that the 2.7 wont work on the WASI stretch. It's just that the 2.1m rod is a little more handy. It's horses for courses but the 2.1 makes the most sensible starting point where the WASI stretch is concerned.

Buy a Shimano reel. The German reels may have been from a company called DAM.

Buy a 2-piece 7' rod rather than a telescopic.

If you want just one rod and reel for general spinning on the WASI stretch pick up the Shimano Beastmaster SBMAX210M spinning rod and the Shimano Symetre SY4000RI or SY4000FI spinning reel. Don't buy el cheapo tackle especially if you are only going to have one rod and reel.

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