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423 mauser rife

Post by bullshitwalks » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:04 am

saw a .423 calibre mauser rifle. hadnt seen anything or heard of anything of this calibre. the bullets were huge. a single bullet was a fistfull and cud be used for stabbing. nib condition , last shot was fired 30 years back. lil.
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Re: 423 mauser rife

Post by art_collector » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:06 am

HI,
Kindly let me know if the rifle is available for sale.

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Re: 423 mauser rife

Post by bullshitwalks » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:14 pm

kindly let meknow thw lowest price to quoted for the gun, then i'll know if its on sale or not.

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Post by mundaire » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:15 pm

Is this .423 the 10.75x68? Anyone know what's the usual price of this ammo and how hard it is to procure?

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Re: 423 mauser rife

Post by TwoRivers » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:24 pm

This would be the 10.75x68mm; though there was an earlier 10.75x63, superceded by the longer-cased one. In either case, it's an obsolete cartridge, out of production for many years. As with many others of the old cartridges there has been some renewed interest, but I doubt that any major manufacturer will ever produce it again. Bertram lists the case. Can't think of any other case it could readily be made from, even if reloading supplies were available to you. Wouldn't mind having one myself, would make a dandy bear and moose rifle. Cheers.

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Post by z375 » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:42 pm

mundaire";p="49455 wrote:Is this .423 the 10.75x68? Anyone know what's the usual price of this ammo and how hard it is to procure?

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Abhijeet,

The ammo for this caliber is as scarce as hen's teeth, I've been runnning from pillar to post to get ammo for my rifle and was lucky enough to have an old friend of mine give a couple of boxes which are in spanking new condition and were superbly looked after, I also bought some 35 rounds of ammo from one of Cyrixoutside's contacts but they turned out to be 10.75x63, not a problem since the projectiles are the same weight and diameter and can be worked upon.

As far as the shootability is concerned, the recoil is similar to the .375 H&H and the ME figures are too, trajectory is another thing altogether, but for all practical purposes its great fun to shoot, I use my grandad's A-grade, Oberndorf Mauser and I love that rifle. 8)
"With solid bullets on heavy animals such as elephant, rhino and buffalo this power is quite apparent but is not so obvious as when soft-nose bullets are being used, say, lion, particularly when is a case of stopping a charge : the .404 will stop him all right, but will seldom crumple him quite so completely as will the .416" -- John Taylor, Big Game and Big Game Rifles, (Ch. IX)

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Re: 423 mauser rife

Post by penpusher » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:17 pm

There was a fellow at Ambala who was selling his with some cartridges.Was looking for 50,000/- for it.Did not save his contact as I was not interested in buying it.

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Re: 423 mauser rifle

Post by canadian gun nut » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:48 am

Don't forget that it may, in fact, be a .404 Jeffery just marked in European markings. (10.75 x 74 = .404 Jeffery). If nothing else & it is built on a Mauser 98 action, it can always be re-chambered & the action feed rails & bolt face opened up for the 404, a truly world-class cartridge.

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Re: 423 mauser rife

Post by james02 » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:24 pm

.404 case is different to .423 case,i think its just the same bullet size

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Re: 423 mauser rifle

Post by talha19in » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:51 am

canadian gun nut wrote:Don't forget that it may, in fact, be a .404 Jeffery just marked in European markings. (10.75 x 74 = .404 Jeffery). If nothing else & it is built on a Mauser 98 action, it can always be re-chambered & the action feed rails & bolt face opened up for the 404, a truly world-class cartridge.

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Hi Jim,
My friend owns a Mauser 423. how can it be converted to 404? is 404 cartridge available in market?

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Re: 423 mauser rifle

Post by z375 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:12 am

Hi Jim,
My friend owns a Mauser 423. how can it be converted to 404? is 404 cartridge available in market?

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Converting a 10.75x68 to a 10.75x73 (.404) is not going to make it a more viable option, the .423 is as white an elephant here as is the .404. You will have to slug the bore first to ensure your bore diameter, there are many .422 and .418 cal variants in both the .423 and the .404, also you will be running higher chamber pressures as the .423 fires a 347-grain pill @ approximately 2200fps, while the .404 lobs a 400-grainer at almost the same velocity, I'm not saying that it cannot be done, it can, but i wouldn't trust anyone to do a cartridge conversion over here.
"With solid bullets on heavy animals such as elephant, rhino and buffalo this power is quite apparent but is not so obvious as when soft-nose bullets are being used, say, lion, particularly when is a case of stopping a charge : the .404 will stop him all right, but will seldom crumple him quite so completely as will the .416" -- John Taylor, Big Game and Big Game Rifles, (Ch. IX)

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Re: 423 mauser rifle

Post by talha19in » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:19 am

z375 wrote:
Hi Jim,
My friend owns a Mauser 423. how can it be converted to 404? is 404 cartridge available in market?

Talha
Talha,

Converting a 10.75x68 to a 10.75x73 (.404) is not going to make it a more viable option, the .423 is as white an elephant here as is the .404. You will have to slug the bore first to ensure your bore diameter, there are many .422 and .418 cal variants in both the .423 and the .404, also you will be running higher chamber pressures as the .423 fires a 347-grain pill @ approximately 2200fps, while the .404 lobs a 400-grainer at almost the same velocity, I'm not saying that it cannot be done, it can, but i wouldn't trust anyone to do a cartridge conversion over here.

Jim,

Then its better to look for .423 cartridges instead of looking for converting it in India. Please help me out in getting the .423 cartridges if u get across them somewhere.

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Re: 423 mauser rife

Post by MoA » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:43 am

If you are hell bent on doing a conversion, get in touch with Pacific Tool and Gauge http://www.pacifictoolandgauge.com/products.htm I am sure they will have reamers et al, to do the conversion.

As to why you would want a .423 or .404 Jeffery personally is not something I understand, but more power to you. :cheers:

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Re: 423 mauser rife

Post by sa_ali » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:27 am

Pls see this thread.
http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8562

It is indeed a white elephant, ammo difficult to get, last i tried i was getting some for the price of 500 a piece, that too not readily available but can be arranged scenario, it was by shamsuddin in delhi. You can get there no from the yellow pages section.
Its cartridge is available on http://www.cabelas.com/p-0024283216986a.shtml, but not in india.

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Re: 423 mauser rife

Post by Nakihunter » Sun May 29, 2011 5:38 am

Hello everybody. My dad had a 423 Mauser made by FN of Belgium. He sold it in 1968 or so. He shot 2 leopards with in in 1958. I would like to buy one for old times' sake. Ideally it would be dad's old rifle which would have his name written neatly inside a solid canvas covered wooden case. Any 423 Mauser would be fine. Does anyone know of such a rifle for sale? Or a 404 Jeffery?

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