Question in parliament

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Re: Question in parliament

Post by amangill » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:59 pm

Step by step,weeeeeeeeeeee will definately hit the target.

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Re: Question in parliament

Post by goodboy_mentor » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:40 pm

It is not just an issue of safeguarding the rights of gun owners only, it is about upholding the principles of freedom and democracy. It is about the freedom and security of all Indians. Indians simply cannot afford to disarm themselves and allow only police and criminals to have guns. Dictatorship, tyranny, autocracy etc. was about monopoly of power and violence in hands of few. Democracy was created with the purpose to ensure that monopoly of power and violence does not slip into hands of few under any color or pretext.
Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon, and citizen’s firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99.99% of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place with all that’s good. When firearms go, ALL GOES; we need them every hour.”-George Washington
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Re: Question in parliament

Post by hsgoldy77 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:46 pm

Thanx to our honorable MP's.. But my special thanks are for Abhijeet who explained and convinced our MP's to put these questions in Parliament..
I really appreciate Abhijeet for fighting for our rights, B'cos this will benefit all of us..
Thanx again..
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Re: Question in parliament

Post by to_saptarshi » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:55 pm

My Hat is off to you Mister Abhijeet. Kudos to you & NAGRI ..for this remarkable milestone. My Thanks to both Honarable MP's. Someone rightly said "The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step." And we made our first step. Keep the spirit high guys we will definately win.
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Re: Question in parliament

Post by mundaire » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:14 am

Guys, guys - PLEASE - I really am not the person who deserves any credit here! It is firstly the IFG members who came forward and got in touch as soon as we sent out a request to all via e-mail/ PM (last month). I would like to name them, but will first need to get their OK... secondly it is our very own president of NAGRI - Shri Rahoul Rai, who has tirelessly been personally following up on every single lead - calling up/ meeting people, every single day! This despite his hectic work schedule as well as very important personal commitments... last but not the least, we should appreciate the Member's of Parliament who have risen to the occasion and taken up this issue - disregarding all party affiliations! As far as I am concerned each one of these gents deserves a huge round of applause from all of us, and when the time comes we should make a list & support them to the fullest in the next elections!!!
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Re: Question in parliament

Post by Sakobav » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:42 am

great news and kudos to the members need more such debates and confessions like this

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Re: Question in parliament

Post by Virendra S Rathore » Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:47 pm

This is great news and start in the parliament. After we have sent letters to our MPs, I'm sure those haven't spoken of it yet, have it on their conscience at least. Lets us hope that with an increasing debate they will follow suit.
From what I've observed after discussions with peers, our people are painfully unaware of the gravity of this matter and that how fundamental it is to us. Actually as fundamental as poverty, corruption, wild life preservation and climate change.
It deserves a debate - in parliament, on tea stalls, bus stands, events and gatherings.

By the way, I relocated from Bangalore to Delhi / NCR. I hope to meet with fellow IFGians at Karni Singh shooting range during CWG or sooner :)

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-- Sat Aug 14, 2010 20:49 --
mundaire wrote:Guys, guys - PLEASE - I really am not the person who deserves any credit here! It is firstly the IFG members who came forward and got in touch as soon as we sent out a request to all via e-mail/ PM (last month). I would like to name them, but will first need to get their OK... secondly it is our very own president of NAGRI - Shri Rahoul Rai, who has tirelessly been personally following up on every single lead - calling up/ meeting people, every single day! This despite his hectic work schedule as well as very important personal commitments... last but not the least, we should appreciate the Member's of Parliament who have risen to the occasion and taken up this issue - disregarding all party affiliations! As far as I am concerned each one of these gents deserves a huge round of applause from all of us, and when the time comes we should make a list & support them to the fullest in the next elections!!!
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Re: Question in parliament

Post by goodboy_mentor » Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:17 am

From what I've observed after discussions with peers, our people are painfully unaware of the gravity of this matter and that how fundamental it is to us. Actually as fundamental as poverty, corruption, wild life preservation and climate change.
It deserves a debate - in parliament, on tea stalls, bus stands, events and gatherings.
I fully agree. This is because common man on the street is not a firearm owner. It is simply because the masses have been kept ignorant and away from firearms, cleverly by government. By making the possess extremely difficult and artificially inflating the cost of firearms beyond the range of common people. The solution lies in making the licensing process simple, more manufacturers, opening of imports. This will make common man a firearm owner.
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Re: Question in parliament

Post by nagarifle » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:55 am

For me every ruler is alien that defies public opinion.
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Re: Question in parliament

Post by hvj1 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:32 am

nagarifle wrote:For me every ruler is alien that defies public opinion.
Mohandas Gandhi
In which case we can switch to a divider and protractor.....
Ken Bingsley :mrgreen:

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Re: Question in parliament

Post by viwa1397 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:34 pm

Everybody who afford & earn 5.5 lacs and above & have qualified well should get rights to Carry Gun. It will reduce crime as well.

-- Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:39 pm --

Why there is approval process from licencing authority? Answer is For corruption.
They can approved license to all of them who donnt have any criminal record, Educated & Earning well etc but no they will never do this because there income source will get cut after.

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Re: Question in parliament

Post by m24 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:39 pm

viwa1397 wrote:Everybody who afford & earn 5.5 lacs and above & have qualified well should get rights to Carry Gun. It will reduce crime as well.
:roll:
Jeff Cooper advocated four basic rules of gun safety:
1) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it.

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Re: Question in parliament

Post by dev » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:49 pm

viwa1397 wrote:Everybody who afford & earn 5.5 lacs and above & have qualified well should get rights to Carry Gun. It will reduce crime as well.

-- Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:39 pm --

Why there is approval process from licencing authority? Answer is For corruption.
They can approved license to all of them who donnt have any criminal record, Educated & Earning well etc but no they will never do this because there income source will get cut after.

Errr right mate, after you? :mrgreen:
I'm finding it a little hard to carry my rifle in my pocket at the moment, so i guess the crime graph ain't going down. ROTFL
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Re: Question in parliament

Post by Nitro Express » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:01 pm

viwa1397 wrote:Everybody who afford & earn 5.5 lacs and above & have qualified well should get rights to Carry Gun. It will reduce crime as well.

-- Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:39 pm --

Why there is approval process from licencing authority? Answer is For corruption.
They can approved license to all of them who donnt have any criminal record, Educated & Earning well etc but no they will never do this because there income source will get cut after.
Such posts might have a negative effect on NAGRI's efforts.Mandarins at North Block might think otherwise.

Please evaluate the seriousness of the topic before posting.

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