Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
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Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
First unsolicited mail received from the idiot:
Mehul,
Read your profile.
Just to introduce you in short. I am Shailesh. I practiced Rifle Shooting whilst in NCC and was a Silver medalist in Skid shooting. But one thing i loved the most is firing rounds from the 303 Rifle . As i found it very challenging.
But i never misued this hobby in killing the poor animals. especially the ones which are on the Brink of Extinction.
I wonder some Heartless and Ruthless people like you are hellbent upon killing these poor animals just for the sake of a Hobby ? Shame on you all.
Even killing a Tiger with a GUN is never considered a great thing..infact you are considered a Coward.
I can only request you to stop hunting poor animals and birds and let the beautiful creatures live.
This message was sent to you by Shailesh Karkhanis.
To which I replied:
Where did you see me shoot any animal that was on the verge of extinction, moron?
There is no shortage of idiots like you who have no idea of hunting and conservation practices. Try to get yourself an education about this, and, if you cannot, stop trying to pontificate on matters which are way beyond what your lack of an intellect could comprehend.
And then I received this in turn:
Thanks for replying.
I do not wish to debate. But i wish to write a few
lines about myself.
I was an NCC air force wing cadet and practised firing
and Skid shooting with a 7.62 , 303 and double barrel
rifles. Won a silver medal in Skid Shooting.
I knew many cadets and shooters who also used to enjoy
shooting hence used to indulge in shooting Giant
squirrels and peacocks. It was painful to see this.
Shooting Authentic animal species for fun and Hobby. I
am sure this act would lead the species to extinction.
Also The current situation on Tigers arose because of
Ruthless killings carried earlier.
My only intention here is to prevent people from doing
this dasturdly act.
I hope you Understand.
Shailesh
To which my response was:
Your second mail shows just how ignorant and stupid your stand is. There is skeet shooting, not "skid" and that is done with shotguns, not double barreled rifles. Stop trying to bullshit me with your so called experience. I own guns and shoot and hunt and I do it in a country that has vastly more game due to conservation and to the preservation of land from collecting fees from hunters than anything else.
As far as tigers are concerned, it is a lie that they were decimated by hunters. The fact is that India's forest cover was reduced from more than 37% at Independence to less than 3% now. With their habitat destroyed there was no way tigers could live in vastly reduced areas. If you choose to parrot this nonsense about their numbers having been decimated by hunters then you are either ignorant or a liar like those who in the Indian government's Ministry of Forests cooked this nonsense up in order to hide their own inefficiency in failing to protect India's forests after independence.
There is no way you could debate anything. One needs facts to debate with, not lies and bullshit. If you cannot get properly informed about a subject, try not to be an idiot. It is clear that you do not wish to post this on a public forum because you most certainly are convinced about your own stupidity and fear being exposed.
I shall continue to post any further correspondence from this moron as I am sure that I have not seen the last of him. And, yes since he seems to have got this information from here, I dare him to step in and discuss the subject in public.
Mehul,
Read your profile.
Just to introduce you in short. I am Shailesh. I practiced Rifle Shooting whilst in NCC and was a Silver medalist in Skid shooting. But one thing i loved the most is firing rounds from the 303 Rifle . As i found it very challenging.
But i never misued this hobby in killing the poor animals. especially the ones which are on the Brink of Extinction.
I wonder some Heartless and Ruthless people like you are hellbent upon killing these poor animals just for the sake of a Hobby ? Shame on you all.
Even killing a Tiger with a GUN is never considered a great thing..infact you are considered a Coward.
I can only request you to stop hunting poor animals and birds and let the beautiful creatures live.
This message was sent to you by Shailesh Karkhanis.
To which I replied:
Where did you see me shoot any animal that was on the verge of extinction, moron?
There is no shortage of idiots like you who have no idea of hunting and conservation practices. Try to get yourself an education about this, and, if you cannot, stop trying to pontificate on matters which are way beyond what your lack of an intellect could comprehend.
And then I received this in turn:
Thanks for replying.
I do not wish to debate. But i wish to write a few
lines about myself.
I was an NCC air force wing cadet and practised firing
and Skid shooting with a 7.62 , 303 and double barrel
rifles. Won a silver medal in Skid Shooting.
I knew many cadets and shooters who also used to enjoy
shooting hence used to indulge in shooting Giant
squirrels and peacocks. It was painful to see this.
Shooting Authentic animal species for fun and Hobby. I
am sure this act would lead the species to extinction.
Also The current situation on Tigers arose because of
Ruthless killings carried earlier.
My only intention here is to prevent people from doing
this dasturdly act.
I hope you Understand.
Shailesh
To which my response was:
Your second mail shows just how ignorant and stupid your stand is. There is skeet shooting, not "skid" and that is done with shotguns, not double barreled rifles. Stop trying to bullshit me with your so called experience. I own guns and shoot and hunt and I do it in a country that has vastly more game due to conservation and to the preservation of land from collecting fees from hunters than anything else.
As far as tigers are concerned, it is a lie that they were decimated by hunters. The fact is that India's forest cover was reduced from more than 37% at Independence to less than 3% now. With their habitat destroyed there was no way tigers could live in vastly reduced areas. If you choose to parrot this nonsense about their numbers having been decimated by hunters then you are either ignorant or a liar like those who in the Indian government's Ministry of Forests cooked this nonsense up in order to hide their own inefficiency in failing to protect India's forests after independence.
There is no way you could debate anything. One needs facts to debate with, not lies and bullshit. If you cannot get properly informed about a subject, try not to be an idiot. It is clear that you do not wish to post this on a public forum because you most certainly are convinced about your own stupidity and fear being exposed.
I shall continue to post any further correspondence from this moron as I am sure that I have not seen the last of him. And, yes since he seems to have got this information from here, I dare him to step in and discuss the subject in public.
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Re: Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
But how did he get your email ID ?
A man should have a hobby. It keeps him out of trouble.
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Re: Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
Mehul this idiot has mailed me also...
He wrote :
We cannot talk of Hunting. Please, We already have most species on the Brink of extinction.
How the Hell can u even think of Hunting !!!! Dont you have a Heart to preserve the Beautiful Wild animals ? And how can u justify that hunters are conservators...Sheer Nonsence.
I am sure you are like Salman Khan who simply does not have a heart and are just killing animals mercilessly just for the sake of game or fame.
Shame on you...!!!!
I replied
brother i think you are living in outer space so u don't have any idea regarding any thing. If you have guts and please come in my community and discuss there. U'll get all your answers with full quote. We don't believe in killing of endangered spieces. We are better conservators. We can prove you. Lets join this community and debate there. And thanks for comparing me with salman khan. Write this in my scrap so that girls see and get some brains.
he wrote
Good you have replied. And its also a good gesture
that you have caled me a brother.
I do not wish to debate. But i wish to write a few
lines about myself.
I was an NCC air force wing cadet and practised firing
and Skid shooting with a 7.62 , 303 and double barrel
rifles. Won a silver medal in Skid Shooting.
So am not from Outer space
Also some of my friends , who also used to enjoy
shooting but not very accurate shooters used to
indulge in shooting Giant squirrels and peacocks. I
was painful to see this. Shooting Authentic animal
species for fun and Hobby.
My only intention here is to prevent people from doing
this dasturdly act.
I hope you Understand.
Shailesh
I think he has posted the same answer to both of us
He wrote :
We cannot talk of Hunting. Please, We already have most species on the Brink of extinction.
How the Hell can u even think of Hunting !!!! Dont you have a Heart to preserve the Beautiful Wild animals ? And how can u justify that hunters are conservators...Sheer Nonsence.
I am sure you are like Salman Khan who simply does not have a heart and are just killing animals mercilessly just for the sake of game or fame.
Shame on you...!!!!
I replied
brother i think you are living in outer space so u don't have any idea regarding any thing. If you have guts and please come in my community and discuss there. U'll get all your answers with full quote. We don't believe in killing of endangered spieces. We are better conservators. We can prove you. Lets join this community and debate there. And thanks for comparing me with salman khan. Write this in my scrap so that girls see and get some brains.
he wrote
Good you have replied. And its also a good gesture
that you have caled me a brother.
I do not wish to debate. But i wish to write a few
lines about myself.
I was an NCC air force wing cadet and practised firing
and Skid shooting with a 7.62 , 303 and double barrel
rifles. Won a silver medal in Skid Shooting.
So am not from Outer space
Also some of my friends , who also used to enjoy
shooting but not very accurate shooters used to
indulge in shooting Giant squirrels and peacocks. I
was painful to see this. Shooting Authentic animal
species for fun and Hobby.
My only intention here is to prevent people from doing
this dasturdly act.
I hope you Understand.
Shailesh
I think he has posted the same answer to both of us
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Re: Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
It's fun man ! Real fun
Do you know what like about this ? The replys ! Mehul's replys are classic If nothing I can have a good laugh . BTW, I have stopped arguing with antis because I simply loose temper and find myself at a loss for words !
But I like when somebody does it in an organized way.
"authentic animal species"
"skid shooting"
Do you know what like about this ? The replys ! Mehul's replys are classic If nothing I can have a good laugh . BTW, I have stopped arguing with antis because I simply loose temper and find myself at a loss for words !
But I like when somebody does it in an organized way.
"authentic animal species"
"skid shooting"
A man should have a hobby. It keeps him out of trouble.
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Re: Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
Hello People..
People be cool..
People be cool..
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Re: Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
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Re: Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
Deepak,
I have no time for someone who accuses me of shooting endangered animals. In fact all of us here who are pro hunting hung our guns up when hunting was banned in India. And "skid shooting?" If I am supposed to believe that that gave this moron the right to mail and talk crap sorry but I disagree.
I do NOT have to be polite to someone who is accusing me and other hunters of being criminals and consider it my right to point out that he is an idiot.
I have no time for someone who accuses me of shooting endangered animals. In fact all of us here who are pro hunting hung our guns up when hunting was banned in India. And "skid shooting?" If I am supposed to believe that that gave this moron the right to mail and talk crap sorry but I disagree.
I do NOT have to be polite to someone who is accusing me and other hunters of being criminals and consider it my right to point out that he is an idiot.
Re: Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
Danish,
I wonder how many 0ther members of our group he has sent this BS to?
I wonder how many 0ther members of our group he has sent this BS to?
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Re: Some communication with an anti hunting idiot
Mr Mehul..
I am sorry again .. never wanted to hurt any one.. I can understand you..
Deepak
I am sorry again .. never wanted to hurt any one.. I can understand you..
Deepak
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Well, its about time we had visitors from the dark side...
somebody point him to the WHO -SEA page which lists the fatalities caused in SE Asia by automobiles and how trauma is a major killer pandemic.
there's still hope, as mr skid shooter (does it mean he shot while skidding or skids while shooting?)did enjoy his shooting in the NCC.
SKID SHOOTER:
I was an NCC Senior under officer, a para , hang-glider pilot , All india first in RD Shooting (SD);shot more 303 in a day then you will in a lifetime(1100 recorded rounds at Fig 11 and 4x4) and a few other calibers and rifles you would'nt have heard of.
Pity, you got caught up with "friends " who shot giant squirrels etc-you are hanging out with the wrong bunch of people.They will progress to shooting 'authentic' people/rape/kidnapping/and other 'useful' activities-if they're not into it already-did'nt your mother warn you not to hang out with the bad guys??
If you want, come down to Delhi:I'll treat you to a whole days shooting at Siri fort shooting range with some fine , comp grade air guns / pistols.You wont skid/shoot/skid.PROMISE-That'll come later, after the libations-but you wont be handling a firearm when you're skidding-DOUBLE PROMISE
Next , send me your add so that i can gift you an old favourite of mine-Wren & Martin's English Grammer-if you want to take on some very serious and highly technical people, who have been in the field of firearms for ages, you better prepare yourself in all aspects, letter writing for starters...We'll come to chapter-GUNS- in about 10 years. ok?
Next, Please do understand that gun owners scrimp and save and sacrifice a lot-we are not born millionaires-to buy a gun (it may be any category of firearm)-doesent make us killers of animals or humans automatically-Does having a condom in your pocket make you a rapist? a potential one maybe , but not automatically...prefinal-
Come back here often, and read the various topics , especially those posted by Mehul.Read the technical topics to learn-you wont get that kind of exposure in a 100 years of 'skid shooting'- its a privilege-thank us.
Finally-Get rid of the condom in your pocket-you might just be labelled a rapist.
Since you seem to be a budding hacker, sure, go ahead and email/PM me, I'll be happy to convert you from the dark side!
Best
Axx
somebody point him to the WHO -SEA page which lists the fatalities caused in SE Asia by automobiles and how trauma is a major killer pandemic.
there's still hope, as mr skid shooter (does it mean he shot while skidding or skids while shooting?)did enjoy his shooting in the NCC.
SKID SHOOTER:
I was an NCC Senior under officer, a para , hang-glider pilot , All india first in RD Shooting (SD);shot more 303 in a day then you will in a lifetime(1100 recorded rounds at Fig 11 and 4x4) and a few other calibers and rifles you would'nt have heard of.
Pity, you got caught up with "friends " who shot giant squirrels etc-you are hanging out with the wrong bunch of people.They will progress to shooting 'authentic' people/rape/kidnapping/and other 'useful' activities-if they're not into it already-did'nt your mother warn you not to hang out with the bad guys??
If you want, come down to Delhi:I'll treat you to a whole days shooting at Siri fort shooting range with some fine , comp grade air guns / pistols.You wont skid/shoot/skid.PROMISE-That'll come later, after the libations-but you wont be handling a firearm when you're skidding-DOUBLE PROMISE
Next , send me your add so that i can gift you an old favourite of mine-Wren & Martin's English Grammer-if you want to take on some very serious and highly technical people, who have been in the field of firearms for ages, you better prepare yourself in all aspects, letter writing for starters...We'll come to chapter-GUNS- in about 10 years. ok?
Next, Please do understand that gun owners scrimp and save and sacrifice a lot-we are not born millionaires-to buy a gun (it may be any category of firearm)-doesent make us killers of animals or humans automatically-Does having a condom in your pocket make you a rapist? a potential one maybe , but not automatically...prefinal-
Come back here often, and read the various topics , especially those posted by Mehul.Read the technical topics to learn-you wont get that kind of exposure in a 100 years of 'skid shooting'- its a privilege-thank us.
Finally-Get rid of the condom in your pocket-you might just be labelled a rapist.
Since you seem to be a budding hacker, sure, go ahead and email/PM me, I'll be happy to convert you from the dark side!
Best
Axx
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