Just a word of caution to those trying to reload
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Guess how many... its more than 2...
I had to pull a shot 1 click right to enusre I was still hitting the target. 100 meters...
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I counted 5, or maybe 6 shots...
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Is that unburnt powder speckling I see on the paper?? Why'd you rip it off the rest of the target??? Hmmmm..
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MoA, wouldn't a .260 Remington necked to 6mm be a .243 Winchester???
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I rip my targets up routinely. No point keeping an entire target when what you need is about 3 inches of it. It is also one of the reasons why I have now begun using the 10 meter air rifle target at 100 meters. Especially for load development.
Nope... no unburnt powder on the target.
The .308 necked down to 7mm would give us the 7-08, to 6.5 the .260 and to 6 for the .243
For brass I just use the remington .260 brass. Necking up from .243 or down from .308 is not something I have tried yet. Dont have the paitence to then go remove the doughnut etc...
Nope... no unburnt powder on the target.
The .308 necked down to 7mm would give us the 7-08, to 6.5 the .260 and to 6 for the .243
For brass I just use the remington .260 brass. Necking up from .243 or down from .308 is not something I have tried yet. Dont have the paitence to then go remove the doughnut etc...
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That 6 necked down to 300 win mag sounds right up my street.Has any one done it yet , or is there hope to neck down a 470 to a 6mm ?
let me add, since you have been far removed from the gun scene in India, things might sound like we're back in the stone age-they are. We do not get a chance to develop loads or order a 26'' border off the cuff.Lucky to be able to do a bit of tweaking-regulate charges would be bare minimum.Actually taking apart and putting together a factory round would be 'reloading' Why? to ensure some consistency, uniformity in the charge-on amminimum.
The last 243 I handled was a field model(what else?) Churchill bolt...
let me add, since you have been far removed from the gun scene in India, things might sound like we're back in the stone age-they are. We do not get a chance to develop loads or order a 26'' border off the cuff.Lucky to be able to do a bit of tweaking-regulate charges would be bare minimum.Actually taking apart and putting together a factory round would be 'reloading' Why? to ensure some consistency, uniformity in the charge-on amminimum.
The last 243 I handled was a field model(what else?) Churchill bolt...
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Well it does appear that things are tough. No harm in getting consistency, however safety must come first. However with all the reports of ammo not chambering, or falling apart. I would be wary...
6-.300 hasnt been done yet... probably because of pressures and it would be quite the barrel burner. Once I do get home at the end of this week or middle of next. Will run the numbers in Quickload and see what comes up.
I do need to load some ammunition... stocks are nunning low.
And yes we can order a 26 inch broder... but it will be 3-4 months before you recieve it. Then it needs to be chambered, and adapted to fit your rifle. Would be a 6 month process at least. Unless you get extremely lucky...
6-.300 hasnt been done yet... probably because of pressures and it would be quite the barrel burner. Once I do get home at the end of this week or middle of next. Will run the numbers in Quickload and see what comes up.
I do need to load some ammunition... stocks are nunning low.
And yes we can order a 26 inch broder... but it will be 3-4 months before you recieve it. Then it needs to be chambered, and adapted to fit your rifle. Would be a 6 month process at least. Unless you get extremely lucky...
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Re: Just a word of caution to those trying to reload
My hat is off to you gentlemen! I thought we had it rough here in Canada, having to wait 6-8 weeks to order barrels from the U.S. to re-barrel something, but from what I have read in your forum thus far, we have it extrememly easy compared to those of you in India or for that matter, Australia. Is it true that you can no longer hunt there? (for anything including deer or bear?) My sympathies to you all if this is so.
Just a small question for your learned members. I had always heard that the 315 Lee Speeds, Metfords, & Enfields destined for your fair land were all chambered in 8 x 50 R Mannlicher (aka 500 / 320 Flanged Nitro Express) due to the firearms ban of around 100 years ago, but yet I see a lot of reference in your posts to 8mm Mausers or 8 x 60's, & using .318", or .323" bullets instead of the .330" bullets (like the .3218 Westley Richards) that the 8 x 50 R rifles were chambered for. I presume I was misinformed as to what cartridges the Lees were, in fact, chambere for.
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Just a small question for your learned members. I had always heard that the 315 Lee Speeds, Metfords, & Enfields destined for your fair land were all chambered in 8 x 50 R Mannlicher (aka 500 / 320 Flanged Nitro Express) due to the firearms ban of around 100 years ago, but yet I see a lot of reference in your posts to 8mm Mausers or 8 x 60's, & using .318", or .323" bullets instead of the .330" bullets (like the .3218 Westley Richards) that the 8 x 50 R rifles were chambered for. I presume I was misinformed as to what cartridges the Lees were, in fact, chambere for.
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Re: Just a word of caution to those trying to reload
Canadian Gun Nut: While the bore dimensions of the 8x50R Steyr differ from those of the 8mm Mauser cartridges, bullet diameter was .324" maximum for the old 244 grain bullet, so a .323" bullet will do just fine. The .500/.320 Nitro designation does not seem right, as the case is much smaller than a .500 case. Cheers.
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Canadian gun nut,
I have seen rifles in 303,8x50R and .375.So far I have seen just one rifle in .375.It carries the legend 'Shot and regulated by Holland and Holland' on the dust cover and has a sliding safety.
I have seen rifles in 303,8x50R and .375.So far I have seen just one rifle in .375.It carries the legend 'Shot and regulated by Holland and Holland' on the dust cover and has a sliding safety.
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Re: Just a word of caution to those trying to reload
Pardon my interruption but you all are novices compared to a "True Thorough Bred Bhopali" when it comes to reloading. All that a Bhopali shooter needs to know is that the bullets of the cartridges (bulk load of different calibers)that he has managed to buy cheaply passes through the barrel of his rifle. A little resistance is okay, in fact better.Rest all is improvised...with the help of some paper, used as packing to wrap around the under size cartridge to fit the chamber dimensions and VOILA. Of course it's mandatory to make the first shot count in a scenario like this
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Someone has been making some very naughty friends...marksman wrote:Pardon my interruption but you all are novices compared to a "True Thorough Bred Bhopali" when it comes to reloading. All that a Bhopali shooter needs to know is that the bullets of the cartridges (bulk load of different calibers)that he has managed to buy cheaply passes through the barrel of his rifle. A little resistance is okay, in fact better.Rest all is improvised...with the help of some paper, used as packing to wrap around the under size cartridge to fit the chamber dimensions and VOILA. Of course it's mandatory to make the first shot count in a scenario like this
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Heh...heh... They were just trying to prove subtly that this idiot Bambaiya (yours truly)knew nothing about the innovations that existed in Bhopal as far as shooting sport is concerned. I have seen this happen, thankfully from a very safe distance.
I have also watched with my jaws touching the floor in bewilderment, a 12 bore shell (3.25"LG)from the days of yore being forced into a 2 3/4" chambered semi auto hump back Winchester (the one where one grabbed the knurled barrel and pushed it back to load the action). This rocket scientist did this to sit over a half eaten pet Alsatian to get the culprit, a Leopard in this case. Well, this guy was a friend and still is. The shell was literally hammered in to the chamber with a spanner across the rim to avoid hitting the primer after dis assembling the shotgun. Probably that was the only way to load the chamber with a shell this long. The the guy actually did manage to shoot it and was all praises for that paradox shell. where as I was all praises for that old Winchester. Though I wasn't around when he shot it but was certainly around when he loaded the shotgun. Of course this was some where in the year 1966. This gentleman has migrated to Mumbai now and is a legend in his own mind. We never dispute him out of sheer respect for his courage.
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I have also watched with my jaws touching the floor in bewilderment, a 12 bore shell (3.25"LG)from the days of yore being forced into a 2 3/4" chambered semi auto hump back Winchester (the one where one grabbed the knurled barrel and pushed it back to load the action). This rocket scientist did this to sit over a half eaten pet Alsatian to get the culprit, a Leopard in this case. Well, this guy was a friend and still is. The shell was literally hammered in to the chamber with a spanner across the rim to avoid hitting the primer after dis assembling the shotgun. Probably that was the only way to load the chamber with a shell this long. The the guy actually did manage to shoot it and was all praises for that paradox shell. where as I was all praises for that old Winchester. Though I wasn't around when he shot it but was certainly around when he loaded the shotgun. Of course this was some where in the year 1966. This gentleman has migrated to Mumbai now and is a legend in his own mind. We never dispute him out of sheer respect for his courage.
No way sir, you can't beat them at this game..
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