Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by amk » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:58 pm

I guess it had to be done but it's heart wrenching to see one of God's most beautiful creations lying like that.

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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by marksman » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:07 pm

I hate to see a Tiger dead, stripped off its dignity like this. Whether man eater or otherwise.The picture is okay for official records but should certainly not be displayed the way it has been,IMHO. After all its us who induce them to become man eaters by thoughtlessly claiming the land that belongs to them. Sorry for the outburst but it certainly didn't make a pretty picture. :(
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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by tigerhunter » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:21 pm

Lucky man.

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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by HydNawab » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:33 pm

I guess what marksman is saying is true about people encroaching on forest lands but I also have a few pictures of the half eaten men and women which this tigress killed. I am an animal lover too but killing this animal was very necessary.
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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by marksman » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:16 pm

I too have seen such pictures , Nawab Sahib, But the point is.....here in Maharashtra, all the man eating Leopards that have been caught in Sanjay Gandhi National Park and Junnar forest,were trapped alive by the able forest officers and transplanted to an area far away safely to a reserved forest.
Well, I would certainly like to see the reactions coming from kinds of Mr.Thapar and Mr. Raghu on this one. I am sure it will make very interesting reading to know how the U.P. Forest dept. went about especially in this case to manage permission for some one to shoot it, and that too from out of state. Simply put, we cannot afford to loose a single Tiger NOW. Anyways, even if they multiplied speedily with all the positive efforts, we do not have enough jungles left in India to support more then four thousand of these majestic animals. Think....think....
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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by HydNawab » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:27 pm

Marksman,

We cant afford to lose a single tiger but we can certainly afford to lose village farmers is it?

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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by marksman » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:48 pm

I am indeed happy to learn that we, the people from major metros are truly concerned for our poor farmers in the Tiger infested areas. How ever, One Million people like you and me with all our assets and wealth will not be able to revive the Tigers once gone. I am sorry for the outburst but a pic of a Tiger shot through the right eye and people standing around it shamelessly has disturbed me terribly. I still insist there was no need to display the photo or the article. It sends strong signals to the ones who want to destroy these beautiful animals for trade or for personal glory or to help the poor farmers or both. This striper is already at the verge of loosing the battle against us.
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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by HydNawab » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:53 pm

Everyone has a right to their opinion mate!

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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by rcdoma » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:28 pm

After attacking humans a few times and seeing how easy it is to get them, the animal might never look at other prey! Even if it is relocated, it will still stalk and kill unwary humans. The only place for it would be an enclosed area like a zoo.

This problem can be managed by proper conservation of the habitat and animals. In India proper conservation will succeed only if we get the locals actively involved, give them basic amenities which will reduce their dependence on the forest for things like firewood. I've heard of a single tusked rogue elephant chasing and killing over a dozen people near Siliguri because the forest officials did not want to shoot it, they probably wanted the problem to solve itself :-). The government needs to allocate/generate more funds for effective conservation.

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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by marksman » Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:11 am

Well, in this case it seems the Tiger was also preying on animals. The very fact that it was slain over a half eaten cow proves this. Also the animal looked a specimen in prime of its health and could not have been more then 5 yrs. old. The LG slugs found embedded in his body tell a different story though. If caught alive, it could have been useful in captivity for mating. "Van Vihar" in Bhopal follows this programme and has been fairly successful too in breeding healthy tiger and Leopard cubs by dozens.
The least I expect from we IFG fallows is to refrain from glorifying such instances.
Honestly, I have nothing against this gentleman who slayed it, how ever I am still for the Tiger.
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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by Sujay » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:00 am

marksman wrote: The least I expect from we IFG fallows is to refrain from glorifying such instances.
Honestly, I have nothing against this gentleman who slayed it, how ever I am still for the Tiger.
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I do not think Nawdeep or Ashhar posted anything on this thread to 'glorify' any person. Mr Khan was called up by Govt to undertake a certain job which he did ; within legal limits. Live Capture vs Shooting can be debated , but it would be unfair to undermine ( by casting an apprehensions on their taste) the shooter or members of IFG merely because of postings of the picture of the incident.

Shooting a man eater requires certain skills way beyond marksmanship and I admire that Mr Khan retains those ; while maintaining a civilian life and in complete absence of any activity related to nature/wildlife in our country.

In fact, I regret not being able to meet the gentleman and picking his brains.... :mrgreen:
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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by HydNawab » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:08 am

Actually I had interviewed him for like 20 minutes and I have it on video.Will try to put it up on you tube next week.

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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by Yaj » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:09 am

marksman wrote: Honestly, I have nothing against this gentleman who slayed it, how ever I am still for the Tiger.
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Re: Maneater Shot dead in Faizabad

Post by TenX » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:11 pm

The only thing that I would like to say here is a great big applaud to the man to face a tiger in dark, and that too only about 10 m away.... I cant stop to imagine what would have happened if the third shot did not go where it did!

I was also thinking that was there no other way to drug the animal thru rifle or meat, and get it on a recovery route... like was killing it the only option?

This question may seem quite silly, but I have seen several episodes in NG and Discovery, where the person(s) capture tigers, lions, etc to relocate them, etc.... of course.. most of this is not in India... but considering the fast disappearing species that the Tiger is, maybe it does deserve more research in terms of using technology and consider possible 'capturing' instead of 'slaying'.

Did feel bad looking at the great creature in a lifeless state.. but guess the authorities too have their bit of pressure from furious village folk who lost their near and dear ones. If, probably, a tiger attacked any of my family members, I would surely try to kill it 'if' I could. I may not associate the tiger to a human, but the fact that one has only one father or one mother makes them pretty unique too :)
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