The Siege of Mumbai

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The Siege of Mumbai

Post by kragiesardar » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:46 am

The Siege of Mumbai
Written by Chris Knox, on 12-11-2008 13:02

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From the Firearms Coalition

The Siege of Mumbai

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Madmen Serve As Models For Fanatics



By Chris Knox



(December 11, 2008) Last month, as we Americans celebrated our Thanksgiving, many of us missed or were only vaguely aware of a dramatic and horrifying story that unfolded on the other side of the globe. A band of at least nine terrorists took a ship from Pakistan, somehow transferred to an inflatable boat in Indian waters, and just after nightfall, came ashore at the Gateway of India, a British-built stone monument in the harbor of Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay). From the harbor, it was a fifteen-minute walk to their targets.

Over the next two hours, they hit ten locations: a train station, a Jewish community center, a hospital. Terror squad members finally dug in at a pair of posh hotels and the Jewish community center. Armed with automatic rifles and grenades, the terrorists targeted Jews and Americans, but were content to waste as many innocent lives as possible as they launched on a three-day rampage. “They weren't aiming at anyone in particular. It was like they wanted to empty their magazines and do as much damage here as possible before heading to the Taj [Mahal Hotel],” said one witness. Over the three-day siege fewer than a dozen modestly trained, but determined terrorists killed almost 200 people and paralyzed a great city.

Pictures from photographer Sebastian D’Souza, show fresh-faced kids dressed like Western college students sauntering along firing into terrorized crowds. D’Souza captured an image of two of the murderers seemingly engaged in a calm conversation beneath a billboard advertising tea. “WAKE UP!” says the billboard headline. Indeed. D’Sousa later said that he wished he had a gun instead of a camera.

The Mumbai attack was a different kind of terror attack. These terrorists were not drug-addled, “not-so-smart bombs” walking into a crowd wearing explosive vests. They were competent, determined, but no less willing to die for their evil cause than suicide bombers.

So where did the terrorists get the idea that they could shut down a city, that they could shoot people with impunity while armed police stared, that they could count on people acting like sheep? That question has rarely been asked in the ensuing investigations or in the chin-stroking analysis. The simple answer, of course, is that terrorists read the papers too. Rampage killings in England, Canada, and in America have provided a virtual laboratory for behavior of unarmed and panic-stricken crowds in the face of ruthless killers who show no regard for the sanctity of life.

Those horrible laboratories have also shown that even armed but too-often inadequately trained police can find themselves paralyzed, betrayed by inadequate or improper training, or, faced with a grave situation with no contingency plans, stuck in bureaucratic holding patterns. Some examples:

In the video of the Reagan assassination attempt watch the Secret Service agent struggle with the stock of his Uzi sub-gun.
At the Columbine High School the Jefferson County SWAT team could not decide whether to evacuate the school or try to eliminate the threats.
In the 1984 MacDonald’s massacre in San Ysidro, California the SWAT team waited for their sergeant who was stuck in traffic while the killing inside continued.
At Virginia Tech the SWAT team could not get past doors that the perpetrator had chained shut.
People – that includes cops – do not react at their best under the stress of combat. Those with no training – the vast majority of civilians – panic and fall into herd behavior. Trained professionals can react more effectively, but their training may not have anticipated the situation.

The terrorists have learned all those lessons. I won’t be surprised to see more terrorists turning “gun-free zones” and “gun-free nations” into killing fields.

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The 1994 Clinton “assault weapon” ban did not happen overnight. Versions of the law floated around for nearly ten years. As the fight heated up, Congress seriously toyed with European-style measures that included registering all semi-automatics under the provisions of the National Firearms Act and range storage requirements. Gun owners responded vigorously and in ways that frankly made them uncomfortable. Rallies were held across the country, including a massive march on the state capitol in Columbus. Capitol Police estimated the crowd at 22,000. The media ignored it. Likewise they ignored marches in Austin, Phoenix, Vermont, and elsewhere.

In this day and age, if you don’t have the pictures, it didn’t happen. So we’re looking for pictures. If you have pictures of those rallies of the late 1980’s, please send them. We can scan and post pictures, but would prefer if you do that and send us a link. Obama lists a reinstatement and strengthening of the 1994 ban as a legislative priority. It had disappeared from his transition site (http://www.change.gov), but it’s back.

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Re: The Siege of Mumbai

Post by Prabhath » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:21 am

The article was a very good read. Most of the fools in government talk about banning guns and not regulating the issue of licenses. More individuals who have a clean record should be allowed to hold firearm licenses.Just guess how much of carnage could have been avoided had the photographer had a gun in his hands. He could have taken down the terrorists or injured them badly. That would at least have saved the lives of a few. ..............just wishful thinking.

shahid

Post by shahid » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:51 am

Just a few foriegn terrorists laying siege to a city.
This is a result of stupid gun control in India.
A couple of accurate scoped 30-06 or similar rifles would have knocked off all terrorists exposing themself at Nariman house, and there is no way that a couple of them could not have been shot at the Taj or Oberoi, by armed citizens. That would have totally demoralised them and the end result would have been much different.

They very well knew what a helpless society India is today. Imagine seizing cars from police personnel, this is the limit.

Helpless cops at Bombay VT station watching the show with no guts to fire back.

If the Govt. of India wants to avoid more 26/11s its high time it works on serious RKBA rights i India.

Licence - only clearance of Local police station.

No limit on no. of weapons held.

No limit on ammunition to be purchased.

Tax free status to rifle clubs and promotion of shooting sports.

Total curb on imports of Arms and Ammunition. Charge a custom duty, OK, very well but all arms must be available in Gun shops at a resonable import price.

If a shooter wishes to fire three rounds at the range today, on his way he should be able to stop at a shop and buy three boxes of Victory, Olympia or any other cartridge at Rs. 15 each. If he wishes to he should also have a choice of Eley or RWS at Rs. 17 odd.

We can't help it if IOF cartridges for 12 Bore are being sold for Rs. 42, shut it down if you cant compete.

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