Which airgun should I buy?

[TenX]

I do recall chronoing the TX with two types of pellets but don't recall the figures. The trigger on that TX is so badly set it completely distracts my attention from the firing cycle.

AA springers do not really require a V-Mach kit. That is just a bad and expensive habit of mine. However, I was not too pleased with the extreme spread of the Pro Sport and the V-Mach kit should hopefully bring that down to 5 fps or lesser.

Mack The Knife.. The MV is in feet/sec, right?

[TenX]

I do recall chronoing the TX with two types of pellets but don't recall the figures. The trigger on that TX is so badly set it completely distracts my attention from the firing cycle.

AA springers do not really require a V-Mach kit. That is just a bad and expensive habit of mine. However, I was not too pleased with the extreme spread of the Pro Sport and the V-Mach kit should hopefully bring that down to 5 fps or lesser.

So what I am saying is .. If you get lesser spread, sweet shooting and accurate rifle then whats the harm in extra power...

:Getting ready for the incoming:

-Inder

Inder, if I recollect properly, there is some Greenhill formula, which results in overall loss of accuracy beyond certain velocities for v=certain types and weight of pellets/ammo.

AFAIK the balance of accuracy induced by the rifling is lost if the velocity is greater or lower than what is recommended...

Guys, those who know more, please pour in

[hotshot]

Mack The Knife - with regard to the FAC issue, what about gas ram rifles like the Theoben Eliminator , HW 90 etc. are these also internally regulated. I mean can i buy a 12ft/pound version and then increase the air pressure to make it FAC spec ? I really know very little so please excuse me if you find my questions stupid.

if you are really keen on an FAC, the simplest solution i can suggest is buying a sub FAC power springer, and order a FAC tuning kit.

bring the springer home with you as baggage, and ask the seller to post the kit to your address in india. he cannot legally sell it you to in u.k., but he often would be happy to post it overseas.

i think you can extrapolate this to pcp s, i guess.

of course you will have to speak to them personally when you reach. the three names i can think of are steve pope of v-mach, sandwell field sports, and ben taylor and sons (for pcps). i might warn you, it's not going to be cheap.

You lucky sod...I should bang my head on the wall...maybe I just will.

can this (V-mac)tuning be done for gas rams to get them to FAC levels ?

[Mack The Knife]

Entirely depends on how much that extra power happens to be. So long as accuracy and a refined firing cycle is not sacrificed just to get additional power, you can add a few more ft.lbs. over the optimum but it really wont get you the results you are looking for because a) Most people are not competent enough to hit a distant target consistently and b) I'd rather not discuss this in public.

[TenX]

.. If you get lesser spread, sweet shooting and accurate rifle then whats the harm in extra power...

Here is an article in PyramidAir, which advises against simply higher velocities... "...knowledgeable shooters never allow their pellet rifles to shoot much faster than 900 f.p.s."

http://www.pyramydair.com/site/articles/velocity/



Final say is that if you have a rifle that shoots higher velocities, use heavier pellets to slow them down : )

[hamiclar01]

Mack The Knife - with regard to the FAC issue, what about gas ram rifles like the Theoben Eliminator , HW 90 etc. are these also internally regulated. I mean can i buy a 12ft/pound version and then increase the air pressure to make it FAC spec ? I really know very little so please excuse me if you find my questions stupid.

if you are really keen on an FAC, the simplest solution i can suggest is buying a sub FAC power springer, and order a FAC tuning kit.

bring the springer home with you as baggage, and ask the seller to post the kit to your address in india. he cannot legally sell it you to in u.k., but he often would be happy to post it overseas.

i think you can extrapolate this to pcp s, i guess.

of course you will have to speak to them personally when you reach. the three names i can think of are steve pope of v-mach, sandwell field sports, and ben taylor and sons (for pcps). i might warn you, it's not going to be cheap.

You lucky sod...I should bang my head on the wall...maybe I just will.

can this (V-mac)tuning be done for gas rams to get them to FAC levels ?

not as far as i'm aware

[kanwar76]

Entirely depends on how much that extra power happens to be. So long as accuracy and a refined firing cycle is not sacrificed just to get additional power, you can add a few more ft.lbs. over the optimum but it really wont get you the results you are looking for because a) Most people are not competent enough to hit a distant target consistently and b) I'd rather not discuss this in public.

Got is saar

-Inder

[hotshot]

any idea if they have a V mach or similar tuning kit for gasrams - specifically for the HW90 ?

my other earlier question - any idea why airgunbbs have stopped registrations ?

[hamiclar01]

any idea if they have a V mach or similar tuning kit for gasrams - specifically for the HW90 ?

honestly, you're trolling here for fun aren't you?

because you hardly take the trouble to go through posts that answer your questions, some of which are actually on the same page as your question. and for the unanswered ones, does it occur to you that the rest of us are slowly losing interest, since you want to be spoon fed all the way.

[kanwar76]

any idea if they have a V mach or similar tuning kit for gasrams - specifically for the HW90 ?

honestly, you're trolling here for fun aren't you?

because you hardly take the trouble to go through posts that answer your questions, some of which are actually on the same page as your question. and for the unanswered ones, does it occur to you that the rest of us are slowly losing interest, since you want to be spoon fed all the way.

You took words out of my mouth

-Inder

[Mack The Knife]

any idea if they have a V mach or similar tuning kit for gasrams - specifically for the HW90 ?

my other earlier question - any idea why airgunbbs have stopped registrations ?

V-Mach do not make kits for any gasram based airgun.

I do not know why Airgun BBS have stopped registration. Perhaps it was just a temporary situation. Let me know what message you get via PM.

[hotshot]

sorry and thank you everybody. i am just plain confused on what to do and in that i may have missed reading the posts. I really don't want to annoy you'll .... all of you have been of real help and guidande to me. Sorry again.

[TenX]

any idea if they have a V mach or similar tuning kit for gasrams - specifically for the HW90 ?

honestly, you're trolling here for fun aren't you?

because you hardly take the trouble to go through posts that answer your questions, some of which are actually on the same page as your question. and for the unanswered ones, does it occur to you that the rest of us are slowly losing interest, since you want to be spoon fed all the way.

You took words out of my mouth

-Inder

And thats why I stopped commenting some time back

sorry and thank you everybody. i am just plain confused on what to do and in that i may have missed reading the posts. I really don't want to annoy you'll .... all of you have been of real help and guidande to me. Sorry again.

Most welcome hotshot, if it has really helped you

[hotshot]

Just read that Theoben has Gas Rams which can be installed on HW80's / Beeman R1s Anyone have any experience with this ? I really hope this has not been posted before !!!

[tirths]

Just read that Theoben has Gas Rams which can be installed on HW80's / Beeman R1s Anyone have any experience with this ? I really hope this has not been posted before !!!

People still have less experience on this. No one still sure about return of investment. Many have been installed and came back to metal spring for various reason. If you have noticed, Theoben is not giving a good warranty on this product.

-Tirtha