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Post by mundaire » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:22 pm

If it's going to be a 1911, then consider ordering one from one of the custom pistolsmiths, check out the 1911 forum for recommendations. You will pay more, but will end up with a truly "special" pistol built to your taste! :)

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P.S. - Some of these guys have long waiting lines, so order well in advance.
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Post by archer » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:49 pm

abhijeet,

thanx for the suggestion. i have been to this website forum.m1911.org is this the one you are refering to. could you suggest a good company that i should approach. i have liked the springfield GI45 and the para ordinance 1911s....


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Post by HydNawab » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:34 pm

Parag,

I would suggest you go in for the smaller 1911 models.Preferably by Kimber.Have a look at the eclipse pro II or the Custom pro raptor II.Have a look and let us know what you have decided.

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Post by HydNawab » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:51 pm

Also Parag, have you considered getting a revolver?A smith and wesson 327 performance center?

If you are only interested in the 1911, you might also consider the S&W 1911s.Something in their performance center models.

I am sorry to confuse you but you have the privilege of selecting your calibre and model.Im envious. :x

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Post by james » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:52 pm

Abhijeet wrote,
AFAIK it is relatively easier to source .38 ACP ammo in India than it is to source .38 Super ammo, so I would imagine quite a few owners of .38 Super handguns end up using the lower powered .38 ACP ammo.


I am really confused as it was mentioned in forum that .38 super can be fired from .357 Revolver , kindly clarify , .380 ACP , .38 ACP or any other .38 varience can be fired from .357 Revolver. James....

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Post by HydNawab » Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:19 pm

James,

The 38 Super cannot be fired from the 357 Mag.You can fire the 38 special.I think you have them mixed up.There is no possibility of firing a 380 ACP or a 38 ACP.

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Post by mundaire » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:07 pm

james";p="55188 wrote:I am really confused as it was mentioned in forum that .38 super can be fired from .357 Revolver , kindly clarify , .380 ACP , .38 ACP or any other .38 varience can be fired from .357 Revolver. James....
James, you are not the only one to be confused by calibre nomenclatures... often there is little logic to the designations and many similar sounding calibres which are very different beasts in reality! So PLEASE DO NOT try to interchange calibres as that is a sure shot recipe for disaster!

For example take the above case - the .38 ACP and .380 ACP are two very different cartridges even though they sound so very similar.

When in doubt NEVER substitute one cartridge for some other simply because it sounds similar or even if it "fits"... do your research else you will ruin a gun and maybe an eye (or two) or even worse! Shoot safe.

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Post by TenX » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:32 am

mundaire";p="55212 wrote: ...else you will ruin a gun and maybe an eye (or two) or ...
And does not mean you can try it with your eyes closed :) :)
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Post by TwoRivers » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:36 am

Mundaire:
.380 ACP/9 mm Short. Case diame.374, case length .68, rimless case. Bullet diameter .356".
.38 Colt Automatic & Super: Case diameter .383, rim diameter .405, case length 1.28. Semi-rimless case. Bullet diamter .358".
The two latter cases only differ in pressure; and otherwise interchange in that the .38 Colt Automatic can be fird in the Super, though may not function well due to the much stronger spring in the Super.
The .380 ACP could conceivable be fired in the 38 Colt Automatic & Super, IF held by the extracor. I might attempt it in a dire emergency. The case woud be likely to split and could ruin the gun, and your day. Cheers.

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Post by archer » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:02 am

ashar et al,

please keep the suggestions coming in. i am not gonna buy the pistol tomorrow. i will be doing that in the next 3-4 months.....my idea is to hit the range and check them out first hand before i decide..... if any US based member has any previous experience with these pistols then pls do let me know.....
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Post by HydNawab » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:33 am

Parag,

I think that is a very good idea.It is better if you try out the guns before you make your decision.

If you want to keep the handgun, then get one which suits your needs.If you are thinking of making some money, then as Abhijeet suggested, get a Beretta 81/84.Man, they are expensive here.

If you want to go crazy, get this one.

http://personalsecurityzone.com/cgi-win ... ctID=29252

Just kidding.

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Post by archer » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:51 am

I am actually looking at this one

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=1

at 618USD should be a good deal, cheaper than the IOF .32 pistol for sure....lol

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Post by HydNawab » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:03 am

Its definitely cheaper than the IOF .32 pistol.Even cheaper than any good air gun available.(Diana or HW)

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?model=9

Consider this one as well.It expensive comparatively.$1278 but looks like a piece of art.

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Post by mundaire » Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:15 pm

If you are willing to spend money in the region of US$1200-1300 then I'd say stretch a little bit further and get one of those sweet Les Baer Custom 1911 pistols (Google for more)... that way you only cry once! ;)

If the budget is lower then get a Kimber, they are very nice especially for the price.

If you are thinking of a compact model in .45 ACP, please DO SHOOT IT FIRST and ensure that you are comfortable shooting that gun, else go for a calibre with a bit less power. A full size 1911 in .45 ACP is sweet to shoot, but the smaller variants can be a bit of a handful...

As to the rest, did a rethink about the Beretta recco and considering the fact that you cannot actually sell/ transfer the pistol you bring back on TR, you may as well go for the one you like the best... resale value being quite immaterial as you cannot sell it!

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Post by archer » Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:45 am

Dear Abhijeet,
I some how liked the nighthawk customs more than the Les Baer. http://www.nighthawkcustom.com/

the m1911 forum suggests that the NHC are some of the best custom made 1911s.....
I live in california, so need to consider that as well, as some of the Les Baer ones were not available in CA

I may get a custom made one , will consider the kimber as well. thanx for your inputs.

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