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Novus Collectus · Post by **Novus Collectus** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:35 am

Howdy, I am in the USA and I am interested in gun laws of the various counties and the efforts to preserve the RKBA and that is how I came accross this sight.
Just a year ago I never would have imagined any guns could be owned in India and I am now glad to see you have some at least.

Shamsher · Post by **Shamsher** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:01 am

Hi Novus

Edited - spare the jingoism consider this a warning per code 4. NO regional slurs NOR any post which denigrates any community will be allowed - basically NO BIGOTRY will be tolerated here. Members making such posts will be immediately and permanently banned.

Being a sportsman a BIG sorry & apologies to all brotheren for hurting your sentiments & voilating the rules set up by the Mod.

I think i got a little influnced by the posts of S & B.B

I shall follow the rules for the future.

Apologies again

Best wishes
Shamsher

badshah0522 · Post by **badshah0522** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:54 am

welcome Novus.

Novus Collectus · Post by **Novus Collectus** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:58 am

Shamsher";p="51295 wrote:....
Still, u will find more classics here than in your country.

Jai Hind
SS

Not so sure about that. I would strongly assume you have the good English guns like W. W. Greeners and such and way more than we have, but we have a big antiques and Curios market here.
I was looking at some of the prices some of your guns are going for like a C96 Mauser and if the currency conversion calculator is correct, then WOW!! Like nine times what they go for in some parts of the US.

hamiclar01 · Post by **hamiclar01** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:09 pm

Hi Novus, welcome to the forum. laws on gun ownership in india are archaic , to say the least, and a lot is based on old british penal codes instituted after the 1857 mutiny (freedom war, to be politically correct), when gun ownerships among natives was discouraged. with our own brand of red tape, we have carried a two hundred year old philosphy further to the mess we are in.

still, the fight goes on, and this group is trying it's best to spread the word that guns do not equate with evil, necessarily.

Shamsher";p="51295 wrote:Hi Novus

Another instance of an American being unaware.

India has had the finest guns, The british brought with them the best wepons,

The did not carry them back. They are all here, recently a lot of them have been exported out of the country - legally

Still, u will find more classics here than in your country.

Jai Hind
SS

shamsher, when this unnecessary bit of jingoism on your part dies down, will you promise to return to terra firm and mull over what you've written

Post by **Sakobav** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:09 pm

Hi Novus

Welcome aboard and Hamclair has described the key gun ownership issues. Gun import into India was banned in 1984 so gun prices have increased exponentially due to a demand and supply situation.

You can read more about gun laws in appropriate sections of this forum.

Regarding classic guns in India, for better part of the early 1900 century, Indians were one of the biggest clients for bespoken guns made in UK and Europe check
http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?t=4527

Once again regret the remark made by member here and do post often especially on the guns you own. Which state are you from?

Best

OverUnderPump · Post by **OverUnderPump** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:47 pm

Welcome to IFG Novus.

regards

OUP

Novus Collectus · Post by **Novus Collectus** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:00 am

ngrewal";p="51332 wrote: Once again regret the remark made by member here and do post often especially on the guns you own. Which state are you from?

Best

Thanks for the info.
I am in Maryland about fifteen miles from Washington D.C.
I own about 30 firearms including revolvers, semi auto rifle(s), straight pull and turn bolt action rifles,and semi auto pistols.

The semi auto rifle is a Yugoslavian SKS, well two actually but one is a parts gun.
The two straight pull bolt actions are a Swiss K31 and an 1895 Steyr Mannlicher.
Turnbolts are a M1903 Springfield, Khyber Pass SMLE (wall hanger of course), FN made "Spanish" Mauser carbine (made for brazil and is a wall hanger), M44 Mosin Nagant, and a. 22 LR Savage bolt action.
Shotgun is a Remington 870.

Handguns are CZ52s, CZ82, 1895 Nagant revolver, S&W M1917, "1858" Remingtons (one fires .45 LC and three are cap and ball), 1860 Colt cap and ball, a pinfire revolver (wall hanger), a .22 short revolver with a smoothbore (wall hanger), 2 .32 Iver Johnson top break revolvers, .38 Iver Johnson top break revolver, .32 US Revolver co. top break revovler (which is really another Iver Johnson), 1911A1 Colt Systema.

Not all of them are with me and some are on loan.

All my guns with a few exceptions are cheap here in my part of the states and may sound interesting, it really isn't for the usual collector here. For instance I think only four of my guns cost me more than $100 if I recall correctly. But I gotta tell ya, I love having so many different guns with which to choose from to shoot even if they are not valuable yet.

EDIT: I mistyped, the Springfield is an M1903, not an M1901 and there is no such thing as an M1901 Springfield to my knowledge.

Novus Collectus · Post by **Novus Collectus** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:45 am

The M1903

Post by **TwoRivers** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:01 pm

Actually, there is a Model 1901 Springfield, a prototype that evolved into the M1903. While 5,000 were ordered produced for troop trials, the actual number produced was considerably less. Few survive. Cheers.

msandhu · Post by **msandhu** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:27 pm

Hi Novus,
Welcome to IFG. There is big difference in gun laws in India and USA. If we look at the numbers, US has highest number of firearms in civilian hands followed by India but that does not unfortunately give the true picture. While there are 90 guns per 100 people in US its only 4 per hundred in India. India has a rich heritage but we are still following antiquated and unreasonable gun laws. Due to import ban, its hard to get quality guns at reasonable price. Some of the Indian made guns are good especially the ones made for security forces but cannot say the same for civilian firearms and any caliber used by security forces is prohibited for civilian use (except a few exceptions) .
I am sure u will enjoy various opinions on this forum.
Cheers
Mandeep

Novus Collectus · Post by **Novus Collectus** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:29 pm

TwoRivers";p="51389 wrote:Actually, there is a Model 1901 Springfield, a prototype that evolved into the M1903. While 5,000 were ordered produced for troop trials, the actual number produced was considerably less. Few survive. Cheers.

Now that is cool to learn. Thanks.

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:39 pm

Welcome aboard Novus, as you might have already gathered from the posts here - we have no 2'nd amendment type of legislation here and therefore gun licensing is pretty much a hit & miss affair

Nice collection of firearms you have there, which ones are your favourite "go to" guns?

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Novus Collectus · Post by **Novus Collectus** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:23 pm

mundaire";p="51413 wrote:Welcome aboard Novus, as you might have already gathered from the posts here - we have no 2'nd amendment type of legislation here and therefore gun licensing is pretty much a hit & miss affair

Nice collection of firearms you have there, which ones are your favourite "go to" guns?

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Well believe it or not, the gun I have at the ready during the day is one of the weakest, the hammerless .32 S&W US Revolver co. gun. I have a current threat and so I have it close by just in case and often will have it in my pocket when mowing the lawn for instance.
At night I have next to the bed my CZ52 and my CZ82 ready to go. On the other side of the house I have the .45 ACP 1911A1 in case I am caught away from the other guns during an attack, but that has a gun lock on it and I have doubts it could be unlocked in time for most home invasions. (it is locked because young nephews and niece visit on occasion).

I have a shotgun, but I was never one that thought about using a shotgun for home defense, especially because I do not live on a lot of land to justify longer shots.

The CZ82 is just a treat to shoot and feels like a natural for a self defense situation, but the CZ52 is good if the home invader is wearing bullet resistant armor. However, while it does happen on occasion, it is rare a home invader will have a vest on. I figure though if I miss with the CZ52 the enourmous muzzle blast will scare the daylights out of them and they will run away.

TenX · Post by **TenX** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:45 am

Novus Collectus";p="51422 wrote: ... the enourmous muzzle blast will scare the daylights out of them and they will run away.

... which should more than suffice

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