Diana air rifle dealer gunmark of Pune

[b.baracho]

Rs. 1.25000/- only for Diana 350 Magnum How do these guys get fooled?

[dev]

I think it must be an obsession that defies logic , knowing fully well that one can import an air rifle with a little care and patience. Hope I find one of them to peddle a Crosman Discovery...heck I'll even slash the price to 75,000

Dev

[karizman]

hi Karizman
unable to follow the link, get to orkut logon page only.

Here is a Rapidshare link for all who can't access orkut link. http://rapidshare.com/files/133341352/D ... Magnum.pdf

[karizman]

Hi

The prospective buyer ought to ask himself...

What is he going to do with a 350 Magnum ?

If the reason is on the lines of ...."I just got to have it" then pay the price ...in whatever form....and enjoy.

But ....think about this....Its the buyers love or passion or even desperation to own a 350 Magnum (or similar) that the dealers exploit.

Its unfair but that is how it is and I guess finally its the prospective owner to blame.

Dealers are business people who will capitalize on supply demand situations...It is rampant with firearms in India and air guns are going or have gone the same way.

Until our laws on the matter are rationalized, the situation won't change...well not quite...there is a middle path...import yourself and go through the "drill". It might be worth it.

After all "Who dares, Wins"

I knew almost everybody will laugh at a person & this kind of mentality. My intention to put up this information was to request our forumers & moderators that any kind of contact details of such greedy & doubtful people should not be made available on our forum. If that is not possible then atleast a stern warning message should be attached with such a post.

I hope such a warning will help guilible people to keep away from burning their fingers. I hope most of the forumers will agree with me.

Karizman

[Mack The Knife]

Karizman,

I am unable to open the latest link. Since I have no intention of joining Orkut, might I ask if this dealer is from Poona?

Thanks.

[mundaire]

Karizman,

I am unable to open the latest link. Since I have no intention of joining Orkut, might I ask if this dealer is from Poona?

Thanks.

It's Gunmark armoury aka G Smith & Co. of Pune.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[fantumfan2003]

I second what Mack The Knife says, I have heard of someone pay more than 40K for a new Diana 35 in .177 cal.

Just shows some people are passionate / obsessed about owning a Diana (or whatever), price no bar....

Mack The Knife is it that the same model in .177 is sold at a lesser price than a .22 ? Your comment seems to suggest that.....and thats what another friend told me when I got my Diana 35 in .177 for what I think is a song in the prevailing price atmosphere. By the way I was gifted an original new diana 35 spring, leather AND ptfe piston seal and a breech seal as spares for my Diana 35. He sure did put a big smile on my face

M.

You'd be surprised, Dev. I know of one person who bought two airguns for 1.0 and 1.2 lakhs and they were both in .177" calibre. Neither airgun was exceptional other than being PCPs.

[mundaire]

Since this thread is primarily to do with Gunmark armoury, am merging this thread with the older one where people here have discussed their experiences with Gunmark. Should allow for a more balanced perspective to emerge...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[karizman]

Since this thread is primarily to do with Gunmark armoury, am merging this thread with the older one where people here have discussed their experiences with Gunmark. Should allow for a more balanced perspective to emerge...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Dear Abhijeet,

I think merging of this thread is indirectly glorifying Gun Mark people where as my intention to make fresh post was to highlight their wrong doings & greediness. The overall outlook of a psot now is something like a free advertisement with a pinch of salt.

They deliver the goods after overcharging you that is why I did not call them a cheat or fraud but I called them greedy. I had seen your earlier post & I also could have posted to the same post but I did not think it fit. I hope you also give the whole thing rethinking & do the best justice to the cause.

Rest ball is in your court.

Karizman

[mundaire]

Karizman, this is an independent website and we do not endorse any particular business here. That said, all members are free to discuss/ praise/ criticise any business involved in purveying the products/ services that the members here find of interest.

IFG as a website takes no stand on this - it merely provides a platform for members to discuss/ criticise/ praise etc. and the views and opinions expressed here are those of the members.... the logic being that free speech will ensure that the truth will eventually prevail...

Any opinion expressed in terms of any product/ service/ business by any moderator or administrator here is expressed purely in an individual capacity - the same as everyone else.

All this said - there is no doubt that Gunmark is scalping airguns for a profit. That they are doing so is of no surprise... people are in business to make a profit and in a situation where customers usually have more money than sense, I can see why they are happy to multiply their margins by so much!

As others have said before - if someone is simply much to lazy to import one himself (now that imports are so much easier) then he/' she will pay the price of laziness...

[palival]

Hi ABABUJAY,

I am planning to buy Diana 54 with Scope. Can you let me know your purchase rate from Gsmith?

Thank you.

[kanwar76]

Hi ABABUJAY,

I am planning to buy Diana 54 with Scope. Can you let me know your purchase rate from Gsmith?

Thank you.

Hi Palival,

There is one 54 is for sale in sale section and I am sure at a lower price then what G.smith will ask. There are some scopes also for sale so please go through sale section.

Thanks

-Inder

[eternalme]

I was quoted a price of 59k for model 54, no scope etc.

Later I learnt from a friend who had found the custom exempts papers that they (Gun smith) regularly get exempted on duty for Airguns and starter guns (Blank - which they sell for 40-50 k a piece - Not sure about the price though).

Everything is quoted atleast twice as much, I agree to the business point but then business is always associated with customer service as well and not only limited to mugging someone of their dear money just becasue there are loopholes which some people don't have access to.

A fair price should be indicated, I would say 25% of cost excluding international shipping+Domestic shipping+ other facilitation charges due to customs.

[Mo]

I had a chat with Col. Kulkarni of Gunmark Armoury and he gave me a picture of how they get the rifles that are up for sale.

He said that though they're listed as the official Indian dealer at the Diana website, thats only for spares and service. Since commercial import is currently prohibited.

He said that they get the rifles imported by existing rifle association members, pay them a premium, add profits for his liaison and then sell it. In effect they're acting only as a facilitator.

He mentioned that at times, the members carry the rifles in personal baggage. Purely with the intention of selling it at a premium.

When you add all that up the prices will soar.

As far as being genuine, I think the guy is fine. He does not quote exorbitant prices for the rest of the stuff. For example the Diana scopes and mounts are sold at very small premiums comparatively.

Only thing is getting timely service. He has an excuse ready everytime (genuine or not - I don't know). I had to call him up a million times before he dispatched my shipment of some G-Smith products.

But as far as ethics go, I paid him AFTER the goods reached me. When I called him to find out about the stuff, he said that he already shipped them. I thought he was bluffing, but it arrived the next day or so. I then made a bank transfer.

So I wouldn't hold much against him. Its got to do with the market and stupids laws that make no sense whichever way you read it. Thats just my opinion. Not a debate invite.

[TenX]

...For example the Diana scopes and mounts are sold at very small premiums comparatively....

Good to know about this. Can you give a brief idea of the stuff available with him and the prices? A PM will do

...When you add all that up the prices will soar....

You should, maybe, also consider the time for return of investment factor. .. If the demand is not all that 'sudden' one may have to block their cash reserves till the sale happens. But, also, te lesser his margin, ht more the sales he can make, right ?