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Post by **Mack The Knife** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:04 pm

To quote Grumpy, The barrels fitted are 12-Bore but the gun also has a set of 9.3x74R barrels and a set of 30-06 barrels on order.

Have fun.

Mack The Knife

Post by **Grumpy** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:35 pm

I suppose that the guns` multi-purpose role is indicated by the engravings on the sides of the action : On the left is a Duck, on the right a Moose and underneath a Pheasant.

HSharief · Post by **HSharief** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:11 am

Its a Tikka 512

Post by **Grumpy** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:34 am

Very good HSharief ( By the way, what is your name ? Referring to you as `HSharief` isn`t too friendly. )
Yes, technically it`s a Tikka 512.....which itself is a developement of the Valmet 412.....which owes quite a bit to the Remington 3200. Only it`s not a Tikka.
Tikka were taken over by Beretta which meant that Beretta would have been in the embarrassing position of one of their subsidiaries having a gun made for them by a competitor - Tikka didn`t build the gun themselves. So the gun was dropped but the manufacturers continue to build it under another name.......but not their own.

Post by **Grumpy** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:26 am

Sharief you`re right in saying that this gun has a top latch, which is the design component `borrowed` from the Remington 3200. Obviously the Krieghoff K32/K80 being a 3200 `clone` has a sliding top latch as does the Valmet 412 and the Tikka 512 - there was also a French gun that used a similar system. The top latch makes a lot of sense because locking the gun high on the breech is very efficient as it reduces load on the hinging. The sliding top latch also automatically self-compensates for wear.
This gun retains the `512` model designation but is NOT, as I said, a Tikka. Any idea what it`s called now ?
John.

Post by **Vikram** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:34 am

It is a Finn classic 512 by Marochi of Italy.

http://www.marocchiarms.com/downloads/c ... lassic.pdf

I got the catalogue mailed to me a couple of years back.Great concept.
Am I right, Sir Grumps?

Best-
Vikram

Post by **Grumpy** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:48 am

Yeah, of course you are Vikram.
As far as I know the Finn Classic 512S is the only truly modular system around with a whole range of barrels, stocks and fore-ends available.
Really well made and with some well thought-out features : The single trigger is machanically cocked for both barrels - not inertia operated for the second barrel. Barrel selector is in the trigger. There are indicators for each barrel behind the safety and it has a very large trigger guard to allow the use of gloves.
This is a 512 SD - compared to the base model SC which has a completely plain action it has the engraving and better wood.

Post by **kanwar76** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:00 pm

Awesome looking gun

You are very lucky Grumpy

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If somehow this gun lands in INDIA then how it wll be entered on the license?

As a rifle Or As a 12 bore shotgun?

Inder

Post by **Mack The Knife** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:04 pm

Probably as a 12 bore with interchangeable rifle barrels. Assuming he has two rifle slots and a shotty slot to spare.

Mack The Knife

penpusher · Post by **penpusher** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:08 pm

Here is what the licensee would have to get endorsed on his license before he can buy the weapon:-

"Allowed to buy NPB rifle and NPB shotgun"

This is how the weapon would be entered:-

Entered NPB shotgun/rifle 12bore/9.3x74R/30-06

penpusher

monty3006 · Post by **monty3006** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:20 pm

Rusty, Grumpy,
I believe this gun also has a barrel set in .222/12 bore and 12bore/12bore Trap?

Monish

P.S a friend of mine owns this same set in 4 interchangable barrel sets.
Its a Tikka 412S.
I believe the S stands for stainless steel.
calibers are 12/3006,12/222,12/12,9.3X74R/9.3X74R.

Post by **Grumpy** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:34 pm

Yes, a trap barrel set is available as are adjustable comb, Monte Carlo and Bavarian style stocks - in addition to the normal shotgun type stock.
There is a `Universal Gun Set` which comprises a set of 12-Bore barrels, a combination shotgun/rifle barrel set and a double rifle set. Also a `Young Hunter` set with shotgun and combination barrel sets and a set with four shotgun barrels.
The combination barrels are available as 12-Bore plus .222, 30-06, .308, 7x65R, 7x57R, 6.5x55SE, 8x57JRS or 9.3x74R. The double rifle barrel sets are available in all the above calibres excepting the .222.
One of the nice things about the gun is that the double rifle barrels are regulated at the factory to the bullet weight you require.

Post by **eljefe** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:50 pm

Wow, great post there Mack The Knife/Grumpy.
Vikram, welcome back-MIA?;)
The grain on the chop is quite, different.I dont intend blasphemy-Is it walnut or an american wood-I think the name is tiger maple-I may be wrong about the name, but that is very unique grain for walnut...

Post by **Grumpy** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:35 am

The fore-end is cut from the same piece of wood as the stock but the `Tiger stripe` figure in the stock isn`t so pronounced - it`s fainter and more obvious in the lower third.
The wood is, as usual, Walnut. Although `Tiger stripe`/`flame` or `fiddle back` figure is more often associated with Maple it can appear in many types of wood - eg Ash ( English and American ) Oak and Sycamore. I`ve seen some fantastic striped grain in Walnut stocks.

Post by **eljefe** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:42 am

Live and learn Grumpy-I guess I'm a part termite at heart

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