for a few months now ive access to a lot of streams for fishing.
The only thing keeping me from doing it is that ive mostly done line fishing desi style and even the rods have just been used in "desi style". i.e. i dont know how to use them.
I want to get started so would greatly appreciate if anyone can help me by guiding me about the basics and to what i need. i.e. what kind of rod etc.
Ive brought some fishing magzines but they tell me about advanced techniques and products and how to catch bigger fish.
there are a thousand brands available for ros, reels and hooks.
I shall be coarse fishing from the bank of small streams maybe sometimes still waters. fish will be english coarse fish including carp.
sometimes i try to observe people fishing and they carry 3-4 rods and enough paraphrenelia to fill my living room.
Ive noticed lot of fishing articles by earstwhile gurus (now just plain addicts).
Kindly help and your replies will be useful for future budding fishermen.
regards.
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shooter
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fishing tips for a newbie
You want more gun control? Use both hands!
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
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Mack The Knife
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You would be better off posting your question on www.anglersnet.co.uk but in case you don't want to, I will try and answer your questions.
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Shooter, presumably UK? yup, the anglers load a wheel barrow and load up on haversacks the size of mac trucks...dont blame you, I've been there with 1 rod, a flask of tea and a packet of bait...and non stop hits the whole afternoon.
Find someone in your neighbourhood to fish with-an experienced angler.
Dont be in too much of a hurry to buy fancy baits-more anglers than fish are caught with fancy baits.get yourself more info from the links Mack The Knife has given you and go give it a whirl...keep bugging us , we'l help out.
[Another one bites...
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Find someone in your neighbourhood to fish with-an experienced angler.
Dont be in too much of a hurry to buy fancy baits-more anglers than fish are caught with fancy baits.get yourself more info from the links Mack The Knife has given you and go give it a whirl...keep bugging us , we'l help out.
[Another one bites...
]''It dont mean a thing, if it aint got that zing!''
"...Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away..."
"...Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away..."
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shooter
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ex guruji, i have 3 wives: hunting, guns and ..... (refer to confessions of a dangerous mind:a post of mine in the past).
2 out of three are fine with my outdoor stuff. and we live in a democracy.
ex-guruji, i want to hear from u guys too for a few reasons:
1)too many forums for eg when i wanted to buy a shotgun, some other ex gurus recommended i join shotgunworld. ditto for rifles, hunting(3 other forums), airguns, knives. now one for fishing!!
2) your answers will benefit other newbies who want to follow (as i told grumpy in shotgun thread)
3) maybe im gettin old and lazy.
not necessarily in that order.
nevertheless i am visitinng other forums as well but just as a visitor at the moment.
guruji, if fishing becomes my fourth wife, then budget wouldnt matter.
guruji as per my experience with my first guns, and other hunting and shooting related activities, and as grumpy rightly predicted, the budget one initially has in mind, changes drastically as one learns more about the subject and same thing happened to me when i bought my first shotgun. guruji u know about this as u were an active participant in that thread.
i dont want to sound too silly by quoting too low a budget so lets just say if it were a car i would want a honda city (indian comparison), if a rifle, a remington, a browning/ beretta shotgun(uk comparison),
El-jefe guruji, yes in uk. ive got a place overlooking a river which is around 5-10 meters from my house and everyday i see people fishing on the opposite bank and I just thought as with shooting, destiny is bringing me loads of fishing oppertunities so why not do it.
if any of u are in uk, plz drop in and we could fish together.
Guruji jaipur ke paas ek small pond ka fishing contract liya thaa for last many years but no rains so that place is good for nothing but playing cricket. good rain this year and it is full so will leave few thousand fishes this year and provided we get good rains for next few years, we can expect some good fishing and good sized fishes.
many thanks
2 out of three are fine with my outdoor stuff. and we live in a democracy.
ex-guruji, i want to hear from u guys too for a few reasons:
1)too many forums for eg when i wanted to buy a shotgun, some other ex gurus recommended i join shotgunworld. ditto for rifles, hunting(3 other forums), airguns, knives. now one for fishing!!
2) your answers will benefit other newbies who want to follow (as i told grumpy in shotgun thread)
3) maybe im gettin old and lazy.
not necessarily in that order.
nevertheless i am visitinng other forums as well but just as a visitor at the moment.
guruji, if fishing becomes my fourth wife, then budget wouldnt matter.
guruji as per my experience with my first guns, and other hunting and shooting related activities, and as grumpy rightly predicted, the budget one initially has in mind, changes drastically as one learns more about the subject and same thing happened to me when i bought my first shotgun. guruji u know about this as u were an active participant in that thread.
i dont want to sound too silly by quoting too low a budget so lets just say if it were a car i would want a honda city (indian comparison), if a rifle, a remington, a browning/ beretta shotgun(uk comparison),
El-jefe guruji, yes in uk. ive got a place overlooking a river which is around 5-10 meters from my house and everyday i see people fishing on the opposite bank and I just thought as with shooting, destiny is bringing me loads of fishing oppertunities so why not do it.
if any of u are in uk, plz drop in and we could fish together.
Guruji jaipur ke paas ek small pond ka fishing contract liya thaa for last many years but no rains so that place is good for nothing but playing cricket. good rain this year and it is full so will leave few thousand fishes this year and provided we get good rains for next few years, we can expect some good fishing and good sized fishes.
many thanks
You want more gun control? Use both hands!
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
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eljefe
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Mack The Knife, now he tells us about the jaipur place...
Lucky sod, lives walking distance from fishing waters, hopefully, not too lazy to cook us visiting country cousins a cordon bleu meal?
Ok, find yourself the neighbourhood tackle shop, go in there and window shop some horribly expensive 2 pc 'spinning rods and reels'
The go to cabelas.com and check out the prices there-same same in USD, ha, if HMG and customs are in a decent state of mind, order, if not , about 150 quid for rod, reel, line, hooks, tacklebox,weights and the whole 9yards-drennan carp hooks at about 65p a pc...brrr
18 july looks like a good day to burn a card , where abouts are you in uk?
Lucky sod, lives walking distance from fishing waters, hopefully, not too lazy to cook us visiting country cousins a cordon bleu meal?
Ok, find yourself the neighbourhood tackle shop, go in there and window shop some horribly expensive 2 pc 'spinning rods and reels'
The go to cabelas.com and check out the prices there-same same in USD, ha, if HMG and customs are in a decent state of mind, order, if not , about 150 quid for rod, reel, line, hooks, tacklebox,weights and the whole 9yards-drennan carp hooks at about 65p a pc...brrr
18 july looks like a good day to burn a card , where abouts are you in uk?
''It dont mean a thing, if it aint got that zing!''
"...Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away..."
"...Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away..."
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shooter
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guruji in enfield north london. guruji my address is very intresting maybe ill write a post in the humour column.
guruji if u come visit me in uk/ india, lemme warn u, i am big kanjoos, bad cook and bad host and a few members and ex gurus who have met me will vouch for that. thanks for the tip. will go to the tackle shop soon.
guruji if u come visit me in uk/ india, lemme warn u, i am big kanjoos, bad cook and bad host and a few members and ex gurus who have met me will vouch for that. thanks for the tip. will go to the tackle shop soon.
You want more gun control? Use both hands!
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
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eljefe
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Guru to be,
happy card burning-just check out the stuff first-dont go buy it...yup, heard about your kanjoosi, enfield will be on my list of interesting places to visit!
ex guru, reverting to novice
take up the mantle, champ!
happy card burning-just check out the stuff first-dont go buy it...yup, heard about your kanjoosi, enfield will be on my list of interesting places to visit!
ex guru, reverting to novice
take up the mantle, champ!
''It dont mean a thing, if it aint got that zing!''
"...Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away..."
"...Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away..."
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Mack The Knife
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Shooter,
You are going about this the wrong way. For one, you need an experienced angler to show you the ropes otherwise you will just get frustrated and give up on the sport. You should also find out about the laws, if any, governing the fishing on this particular stream.
My suggestion to you is that you go across and befriend an angler or two on the opposite bank and ask him to help you get started.
I have given you one specific forum to ask your questions on, not half a dozen. So make the effort and ask there.
I will compile a list for you early next week but before I do, you need to find out and let us know the following:
1) What species of fish do you have in the stream? Ask the anglers on the opposite bank.
2) What is the width and average depth of the stream?
3) Is the stream bed clear (pebbled or sandy) or does it have a lot snags in the form of fallen trees, boulders or weeds?
4) Is it a fast flowing stream?
5) Is there thick vegetation along the banks? If so, is the vegetation shrub or tree height? Approximately, how far is the vegetation from the water's edge?
6) Are the anglers on the opposite bank spinning with artificial lures, float fishing or ledgering or using all three methods?
Some pics of this stretch of water, including that of the surroundings would help me in choosing the appropriate tackle.
You are going about this the wrong way. For one, you need an experienced angler to show you the ropes otherwise you will just get frustrated and give up on the sport. You should also find out about the laws, if any, governing the fishing on this particular stream.
My suggestion to you is that you go across and befriend an angler or two on the opposite bank and ask him to help you get started.
I have given you one specific forum to ask your questions on, not half a dozen. So make the effort and ask there.
I will compile a list for you early next week but before I do, you need to find out and let us know the following:
1) What species of fish do you have in the stream? Ask the anglers on the opposite bank.
2) What is the width and average depth of the stream?
3) Is the stream bed clear (pebbled or sandy) or does it have a lot snags in the form of fallen trees, boulders or weeds?
4) Is it a fast flowing stream?
5) Is there thick vegetation along the banks? If so, is the vegetation shrub or tree height? Approximately, how far is the vegetation from the water's edge?
6) Are the anglers on the opposite bank spinning with artificial lures, float fishing or ledgering or using all three methods?
Some pics of this stretch of water, including that of the surroundings would help me in choosing the appropriate tackle.
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Re: fishing tips for a newbie
I hope you dont get scared away from Rustum's questions. If you did expect a single line answer, in the first place, then you may feel the home work tiring. But trust me, these details will help you in the long run (long cast?)
Some people like me were so much more luckier
Some people like me were so much more luckier
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Re: fishing tips for a newbie
dear ten ex, i wasnt surprised.
I mean if someone asked me that one wants to buy a "bandook" and wants my advise, i would ask him a hundred questions myself before telling him.
guruji, i will send pics and as i said, i have already started on the forum but to tell u the truth, the first day was spent on looking at the pics esp the worlds largest carp ever caught on a rod (separate post)
guruji laws are fine. no problem. ive applied for membership.
species: roach, perch-upto 3lbs, bream-upto 6lbs, skimmers, bleak chublet and carp. Also, pike in winters.
width: see the pic. the other stream is 1.5-2 times this one
depth: average 6 feet
Pebbled bed with moss. some snags in the form of weeds. They have also put metal cages at places (close to the bank) to let fish feed safely on weeds undisturbed by cormorants.
vegetation: please see pic. even in the other stream, there are piers from which to fish on.
Slow moving stream but there are signs everywhere saying: caution, fast currents.
roach- hemp and breadpunch
perch- chopped worm
bream- feeder or long pole or loose feeding casters
skimmers-bradpunch
carp-floating baits and by "roving the bank"
guruji i will try to find more details later. this all i could gather for now.
I mean if someone asked me that one wants to buy a "bandook" and wants my advise, i would ask him a hundred questions myself before telling him.
guruji, i will send pics and as i said, i have already started on the forum but to tell u the truth, the first day was spent on looking at the pics esp the worlds largest carp ever caught on a rod (separate post)
guruji laws are fine. no problem. ive applied for membership.
species: roach, perch-upto 3lbs, bream-upto 6lbs, skimmers, bleak chublet and carp. Also, pike in winters.
width: see the pic. the other stream is 1.5-2 times this one
depth: average 6 feet
Pebbled bed with moss. some snags in the form of weeds. They have also put metal cages at places (close to the bank) to let fish feed safely on weeds undisturbed by cormorants.
vegetation: please see pic. even in the other stream, there are piers from which to fish on.
Slow moving stream but there are signs everywhere saying: caution, fast currents.
roach- hemp and breadpunch
perch- chopped worm
bream- feeder or long pole or loose feeding casters
skimmers-bradpunch
carp-floating baits and by "roving the bank"
guruji i will try to find more details later. this all i could gather for now.
You want more gun control? Use both hands!
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
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The best way to post pics would be to use some online free photo sharing portal, and post the links in the forum topic....
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