RIP Sam Bahadur I think his elder brother also retired as Air Marshal from Armed forces medical service.
His fathers shop was near Hall bazar Amritsar
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20080628/main4.htm
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20051124/aplus.htm#1
Sam Bahadur - RIP
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May Sam's soul rest in peace. Truly a fascinating person. Read all about him in the papers. A true soldier. Liked everything about him except for one thing. To a question in one of his interviews, he was asked what would have happened if he had joined the Pak army and his reply was that Pak would have won the war. That bit of arrogance somehow did not sit well with me. Winning the war was not a solo effort. Countless others too contributed.
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R.I.P. Sir Manekshaw.
India has lost a true son of the soil.
India has lost a true son of the soil.
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I am sure his soul would be in peace.They just don't make them like that anymore.
We can have national mourning when Mountbatten was killed by the IRA but we can't have it for one of the greatest military heroes independent India has produced
That the Defence Minister did not turn up is shameful enough,what is worse is the Defence Chiefs not turning up for his funeral.
We can have national mourning when Mountbatten was killed by the IRA but we can't have it for one of the greatest military heroes independent India has produced
That the Defence Minister did not turn up is shameful enough,what is worse is the Defence Chiefs not turning up for his funeral.-
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i wonder what they are lacking that Uncle sam had?
when the defence minister and defence chief do not come for the funeral, that is there way of saying something and its not " we had a national emergency at hand" case for not being there.
when the defence minister and defence chief do not come for the funeral, that is there way of saying something and its not " we had a national emergency at hand" case for not being there.
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Thats a very sad point indeed but who gives a damn of these two paisa leaders they can take their wreaths and shove it ...
Sam was a great leader with much better war record than tony Lord Mountbatten; who botched every damn operation he ever led or planned started from a damaged destroyer, Dippe raid,.... Secondly unlike the Lord Sam was truly a soldiers general and best epitaph I read is in latest Time magazine in US edition " as a person who made India stand tall"! Great heros
I am also waiting for Punjab Govt announcement for some kind of memorial for this great son of Punjab and Amritsar.
Thats a very sad point indeed but who gives a damn of these two paisa leaders they can take their wreaths and shove it ...
Sam was a great leader with much better war record than tony Lord Mountbatten; who botched every damn operation he ever led or planned started from a damaged destroyer, Dippe raid,.... Secondly unlike the Lord Sam was truly a soldiers general and best epitaph I read is in latest Time magazine in US edition " as a person who made India stand tall"! Great heros
I am also waiting for Punjab Govt announcement for some kind of memorial for this great son of Punjab and Amritsar.
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As per a news article in yesterdays Tribune,Navjot Singh Sidhu ,who is the local MP from Amritsar has announced that he would ensure a statue is put up of the late Field Marshall in the city of his birth.Let's see if he can keep his promise.
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Great if Navjot Sidhu follows through India yet has to learn how to honour their soldiers. I think this gross oversight has lot to do with distrust between Babus and netas with Defense services. Its the elitist attitude of the former. Enough said
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Great if Navjot Sidhu follows through India yet has to learn how to honour their soldiers. I think this gross oversight has lot to do with distrust between Babus and netas with Defense services. Its the elitist attitude of the former. Enough said
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My condolences to the family... he was indeed a great man! May his soul rest in peace.
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thankyou guys for paying your tribute to FM Sam Manekshaw at the same would like you all to go through this article by Krishna Prasad
If you have to die, do so around Delhi or Mumbai
Krishna Prasad | June 28, 2008
The passing away of the only Indian to be appointed Field Marshal when in active service has been remarkable for the warmth of the ordinary men and women, who queued up to say meebeenamet [Farsi for See you later. Manekshaw was a Parsi] to the adorable dikra who put his life on the line for them.
It has also been remarkable for the complete lack of grace and gratitude, civility and courtesy, decency and decorum on the part of the bold-faced names rapaciously grazing the lawns of power in Delhi and elsewhere, for the brain behind India 's only decisive military victory.
Sam, the Bahadur, had been unwell for a while now. From about 1000 hours on June 26, reports of his being "critically ill" had appeared in the media. Yet, when the "expected tocsin" sounded at 0030 hours till the guns were fired in salute around 1500 hours on June 27, "civil society" chose to show its incivility.
Pratibha Patil, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces with all the time in the world: Absent
Hamid Ansari: Vice-president releasing books and writing reviews of books by fellow-travellers: Absent
Manmohan Singh, the prime minister who could do with a bit of the field marshal's charisma and heroism: Absent
Sonia Gandhi: daughter-in-law of the woman the field marshal called "sweetie": Absent
L K Advani: prime minister in waiting of the party which would like to do to Pakistan what Manekshaw did: Absent
M Karunanidhi and Surjit Singh Barnala: chief minister and governor of the state which Manekshaw had made his home for 35 years: Absent
Politicians may have their reasons. They always do. Maybe, there are issues like protocol. Maybe, this is one way in which 'civil India' shows the armed forces its place. Maybe, this is why we are not as militaristic as Pakistan . Maybe, the knees are just too old to climb the hills.
But what about the armed forces itself?
A K Antony : the defence minister 'now behaving like the chairman of the confederation of the armed forces' trade unions: absent 'due to prior political engagements'.
The chief of army staff: absent (away in Russia )
The chief of navy staff: absent
The chief of air staff: absent
The fact that the defence minister was represented by his deputy Pallam Raju, the fact that the navy and air staff sent two-star general rank officers, shows that however high or mighty, however rich or powerful, civilian or military, if you should die as you must, you should do so somewhere in the vicinity of New Delhi -- or Bombay. Or else, they must have some use for you.
Or else, too bad.
As he rightly surmised once: "I wonder whether those of our political masters who have been put in charge of the defence of the country can distinguish a mortar from a motor; a gun from a howitzer; a guerrilla from a gorilla -- although a great many of them in the past have resembled the latter."
The contrast couldn't be starker:
When Amitabh Bachchan was ill after being socked in the stomach during the shooting of Coolie, Indira Gandhi flew down to Bombay to show her concern.
When Dhirubhai Ambani died, L K Advani cut short his Gujarat tour to pay his respects to an 'embodiment of initiative, enterprise and determination'.
When Pramod Mahajan was shot dead by his brother, Vice President Bhairon Singh Shekawat had the time to attend the funeral.
Our VIPs and VVIPs have time for dead and dying celebrities, charlatans, fixers. Not for a field marshal?
In his biography, K M Cariappa, the only other field marshal India has had (and who too died at age 94), writes of his father's cremation in May 1993:
"Honouring him in death as they did in life were Field Marshal Manekshaw, the three service chiefs all of whom belonged to the same course and at whose passing out parade from the joint services wing father had presided, the gracious chief minister M Veerappa Moily and C K Jaffer Sharief, Minister for Railways representing the President as the supreme commanded of the armed forces."
Somebody should have told the geniuses in Delhi that Sam, the Bahadur, passed away in Wellington , Ooty, not Wellington , New Zealand . The nearest civil airport is Coimbatore , just 80 km away.
If this is how we say goodbye to Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw, any wonder why Rang de Basanti could successfully tap into the angst of an entire generation?
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If you have to die, do so around Delhi or Mumbai
Krishna Prasad | June 28, 2008
The passing away of the only Indian to be appointed Field Marshal when in active service has been remarkable for the warmth of the ordinary men and women, who queued up to say meebeenamet [Farsi for See you later. Manekshaw was a Parsi] to the adorable dikra who put his life on the line for them.
It has also been remarkable for the complete lack of grace and gratitude, civility and courtesy, decency and decorum on the part of the bold-faced names rapaciously grazing the lawns of power in Delhi and elsewhere, for the brain behind India 's only decisive military victory.
Sam, the Bahadur, had been unwell for a while now. From about 1000 hours on June 26, reports of his being "critically ill" had appeared in the media. Yet, when the "expected tocsin" sounded at 0030 hours till the guns were fired in salute around 1500 hours on June 27, "civil society" chose to show its incivility.
Pratibha Patil, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces with all the time in the world: Absent
Hamid Ansari: Vice-president releasing books and writing reviews of books by fellow-travellers: Absent
Manmohan Singh, the prime minister who could do with a bit of the field marshal's charisma and heroism: Absent
Sonia Gandhi: daughter-in-law of the woman the field marshal called "sweetie": Absent
L K Advani: prime minister in waiting of the party which would like to do to Pakistan what Manekshaw did: Absent
M Karunanidhi and Surjit Singh Barnala: chief minister and governor of the state which Manekshaw had made his home for 35 years: Absent
Politicians may have their reasons. They always do. Maybe, there are issues like protocol. Maybe, this is one way in which 'civil India' shows the armed forces its place. Maybe, this is why we are not as militaristic as Pakistan . Maybe, the knees are just too old to climb the hills.
But what about the armed forces itself?
A K Antony : the defence minister 'now behaving like the chairman of the confederation of the armed forces' trade unions: absent 'due to prior political engagements'.
The chief of army staff: absent (away in Russia )
The chief of navy staff: absent
The chief of air staff: absent
The fact that the defence minister was represented by his deputy Pallam Raju, the fact that the navy and air staff sent two-star general rank officers, shows that however high or mighty, however rich or powerful, civilian or military, if you should die as you must, you should do so somewhere in the vicinity of New Delhi -- or Bombay. Or else, they must have some use for you.
Or else, too bad.
As he rightly surmised once: "I wonder whether those of our political masters who have been put in charge of the defence of the country can distinguish a mortar from a motor; a gun from a howitzer; a guerrilla from a gorilla -- although a great many of them in the past have resembled the latter."
The contrast couldn't be starker:
When Amitabh Bachchan was ill after being socked in the stomach during the shooting of Coolie, Indira Gandhi flew down to Bombay to show her concern.
When Dhirubhai Ambani died, L K Advani cut short his Gujarat tour to pay his respects to an 'embodiment of initiative, enterprise and determination'.
When Pramod Mahajan was shot dead by his brother, Vice President Bhairon Singh Shekawat had the time to attend the funeral.
Our VIPs and VVIPs have time for dead and dying celebrities, charlatans, fixers. Not for a field marshal?
In his biography, K M Cariappa, the only other field marshal India has had (and who too died at age 94), writes of his father's cremation in May 1993:
"Honouring him in death as they did in life were Field Marshal Manekshaw, the three service chiefs all of whom belonged to the same course and at whose passing out parade from the joint services wing father had presided, the gracious chief minister M Veerappa Moily and C K Jaffer Sharief, Minister for Railways representing the President as the supreme commanded of the armed forces."
Somebody should have told the geniuses in Delhi that Sam, the Bahadur, passed away in Wellington , Ooty, not Wellington , New Zealand . The nearest civil airport is Coimbatore , just 80 km away.
If this is how we say goodbye to Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw, any wonder why Rang de Basanti could successfully tap into the angst of an entire generation?
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yaar, kin kin hijron ki baat karte ho, sheer marne ke baad bhi sheer hi rehta hai, aur yaad kiya jata hai,
ek aam indian ki yaad mein sam bahadur ka rutba kisi bhi jinda ya murda neta se jayda hai ye hamare netaon ko bhi maloom hai, jalte hai sab ke ek non political aadmi bhi ek aam admi ke jehan mein kitna asar choodh sakta hai, baat bahut purani hai, sam bahadur ki popularity se indira gandhi bhi ghabrati thi aur usne ek baar kaha tha sammy are you planning to tkae over the country our samy replied in his most gracefull manner i dont poke my nose in other peoples affair,
jab indira ghabrati thi toh inki kya aukat hai.
ek aam indian ki yaad mein sam bahadur ka rutba kisi bhi jinda ya murda neta se jayda hai ye hamare netaon ko bhi maloom hai, jalte hai sab ke ek non political aadmi bhi ek aam admi ke jehan mein kitna asar choodh sakta hai, baat bahut purani hai, sam bahadur ki popularity se indira gandhi bhi ghabrati thi aur usne ek baar kaha tha sammy are you planning to tkae over the country our samy replied in his most gracefull manner i dont poke my nose in other peoples affair,
jab indira ghabrati thi toh inki kya aukat hai.