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Re: Tempo Gurkha 4x4

Post by Mack The Knife » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:13 pm

penpusher";p="42119 wrote:Can understand him abusing the provocateur.Not the rest.It's insulting and derogatory and had he said that to my face he would have been in danger of imminent bodily harm.
penpusher,

I am not condoning Django's inexusable outburst but having corressponded with the man, I can only assume that he flew into a god almighty rage and typed what he did. I think it's safe to say that most of us have been guilty of this at some point of time or the other.

You only have to read the posts here and in the moderators sub-forum to realise that Shutzen was goading Django constantly. Whilst Django deserves censure, the party that really should be getting stick is probably laughing his socks off at the disruption that he is causing on the forum.
Okay Rhandle...post it here what Hiralal or Shitgen said about bengali's..
Inder, he apparently did. I was out fishing yesterday but someone called me this morning to tell me what had happened on this thread and mentioned that something derogatory was said about Bongs. It may not have been as ridiculous as Django's outburst but trolls know that there is a limit they cannot cross.

Fact is, that I find Djago's outburst so out of character that I am wondering if his account has been hacked into by someone else to cause mischief. On second thoughts, probably not.

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Re: Tempo Gurkha 4x4

Post by kanwar76 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:42 pm

Mack The Knife Bana";p="42125 wrote:
penpusher";p="42119 wrote:Can understand him abusing the provocateur.Not the rest.It's insulting and derogatory and had he said that to my face he would have been in danger of imminent bodily harm.
penpusher,

I am not condoning Django's inexusable outburst but having corressponded with the man, I can only assume that he flew into a god almighty rage and typed what he did. I think it's safe to say that most of us have been guilty of this at some point of time or the other.

You only have to read the posts here and in the moderators sub-forum to realise that Shutzen was goading Django constantly. Whilst Django deserves censure, the party that really should be getting stick is probably laughing his socks off at the disruption that he is causing on the forum.
Okay Rhandle...post it here what Hiralal or Shitgen said about bengali's..
Inder, he apparently did. I was out fishing yesterday but someone called me this morning to tell me what had happened on this thread and mentioned that something derogatory was said about Bongs. It may not have been as ridiculous as Django's outburst but trolls know that there is a limit they cannot cross.

Fact is, that I find Djago's outburst so out of character that I am wondering if his account has been hacked into by someone else to cause mischief. On second thoughts, probably not.

Rusty,

I read whole thread before its got edited. He called him Bengali Babu...
now what is wrong in that.. I know nobody who didn't saw those posts will belive me thats why I asked Rhandle to post what Shitgen said about Bengali's...

So where is yesterday's report.. I knew you going fishing when I read saw you online early in the morning yesterday and :wink:

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Post by rhandle » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:51 pm

Well can we leave this topic here, why to boil our blood and drag ourselvs in to the frenzy. Whats over is over. Can we maintain peace!

I say something then you wud say something and then a third person would get introduced. And slowly it wud turn in to a arugument where everybody would forget what this argument was for.


Lets all keep our tempers under control and not do for which Hira and Django has been banned.

In case you are still interested and think this topic "WHO said WHAT" deserves your attention may be we can chat on PM with out disturbing the peace over here. Personally I would not be interested in this discussion but as courtesy would not say no to you.

If you think by discussing this you would prove your some point and make me say sorry ... I APOLOGISE to You in this public forum. But still my belief is and would be It started because of what Heera did. I DO NOT support exactly ALL what Django did ... but he had kept his cool for a longer time.

And no matter what you or anyone tells me I wont budge on my belief. Even Kanwar you USED very colorful word, even though you were not concerned, but you went in to a fit.

I am sorry once again if any of you think my point is wrong, but I have my freedom to keep my belief and rationale.
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Post by rhandle » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:57 pm

^^^ This response was in for
Sorry abt any confusions because of this....
kanwar76";p="42124 wrote:
Okay Rhandle...post it here what Hiralal or Shitgen said about bengali's.. I have no sympathy with Shitgen, I will be the first person who would like to see his ass thrashed but I don't think he abused Bengali's anywhere...

I am waiting..then I will post here what Django vomited...

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Post by kanwar76 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:07 pm

rhandle";p="42128 wrote: In case you are still interested and think this topic "WHO said WHAT" deserves your attention may be we can chat on PM with out disturbing the peace over here. Personally I would not be interested in this discussion but as courtesy would not say no to you.
Is that a threat... Don't sugarcoat your words..say waht you wanna say...
rhandle";p="42128 wrote: If you think by discussing this you would prove your some point and make me say sorry ... I APOLOGISE to You in this public forum. But still my belief is and would be It started because of what Heera did. I DO NOT support exactly ALL what Django did ... but he had kept his cool for a longer time.
Thats what I am asking..post what wrong words was said for Bangali's rather than beating drums about..how Hiralal provoked Django hence that happend...

rhandle";p="42128 wrote: And no matter what you or anyone tells me I wont budge on my belief. Even Kanwar you USED very colorful word, even though you were not concerned, but you went in to a fit.
I used then I realised its not okay and deleted them...and Yes I will be concerned if sombody will say something about my race.. If Django had problem with Hiralal would have told him so... why he abused whole race...

And you haven't seen me in fit.. and I strongly advice you against it....

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Re: Tempo Gurkha 4x4

Post by penpusher » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:10 pm

Mack The Knife,

The words used was i)Bengali babu and ii)he referred to the state of roads in WB (something that I have personal experience of)

In return Django has this to say:- i)Punjabis are retards ii) have the lowest IQ iii)dung eaters who eat gobbar ka sag

BTW, Bhangi is one who removes night soil.

You and I have lost our temper .There have been rude words said on this forum but I don't remember any one using words like these or abusing people based on the region they come from.

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Re: Tempo Gurkha 4x4

Post by Mack The Knife » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:12 pm

Inder,

When I think about it, even if Shutzen had said far worse than what Django did, there was no need for Django to reply in kind. Actually, Django shouldn't have fed the troll at all but that is easier said than done when one is not personally involved. When Shutzen tried his silly behaviour with me, I kicked him off rather than give him any importance by conversing with him. However, Django did not have the same advantage that I did and must have been so hopping mad that he temporarily took leave of his senses. I am certain that is all that has happened in this case.

So here are the facts. Shutzen has a known history of provocating people. Django was provocated and made a post that I am sure he is regreting and is ashamed off now.

If the Punjabis wish to villify the man for that one lapse, then I wont come in the way because in a way he deserves it. However, the Punjabis are also a large hearted people and it would make me happy to see some more evidence of that fact.

As far as I am concerned, I really don't think I have anything more to add to this thread.

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P.S.: I must have been online around 3:45 to 4:00 a.m.. What the dickens were you doing at that hour? I will most probably be going next weekend again, so let me know if you are interested.

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Post by Mack The Knife » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:16 pm

Inder, Rhandle, cool it guys.

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Post by rhandle » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:17 pm

kanwar76";p="42133 wrote:
rhandle";p="42128 wrote: In case you are still interested and think this topic "WHO said WHAT" deserves your attention may be we can chat on PM with out disturbing the peace over here. Personally I would not be interested in this discussion but as courtesy would not say no to you.
Is that a threat... Don't sugarcoat your words..say waht you wanna say...
rhandle";p="42128 wrote: If you think by discussing this you would prove your some point and make me say sorry ... I APOLOGISE to You in this public forum. But still my belief is and would be It started because of what Heera did. I DO NOT support exactly ALL what Django did ... but he had kept his cool for a longer time.
Thats what I am asking..post what wrong words was said for Bangali's rather than beating drums about..how Hiralal provoked Django hence that happend...

rhandle";p="42128 wrote: And no matter what you or anyone tells me I wont budge on my belief. Even Kanwar you USED very colorful word, even though you were not concerned, but you went in to a fit.
I used then I realised its not okay and deleted them...and Yes I will be concerned if sombody will say something about my race.. If Django had problem with Hiralal would have told him so... why he abused whole race...

And you haven't seen me in fit.. and I strongly advice you against it....

-Inder
What are you.. some dada or something.

Why you want to put words in my mouth.

I have seen you in threat and seen what kind of language you use ... and considering your advice I think I should rather not expect gentleman behavior from you.

And for all reasons why you are so keen to have an argument with me.

Do you not have some better topic to chat on.

regarding sugar coating my words... I dont do that and like you do not tend to use abusive words. Well I would tolerate you till certain time, and then would stop even noticing what you are saying.

You have your belief and I have mine. You think whatever you want to I would think what ever I feel like, as long as it is not hurting any one I guess tht shud be OK!


Again I am requesting to close this topic to you.
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Post by rhandle » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:20 pm

Mack The Knife Bana";p="42136 wrote:Inder, Rhandle, cool it guys.
Sorry, Now I wont be further commenting on Django and Hira affair!
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Re: Tempo Gurkha 4x4

Post by kanwar76 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:25 pm

Mack The Knife Bana";p="42135 wrote:Inder,

When I think about it, even if Shutzen had said far worse than what Django did, there was no need for Django to reply in kind. Actually, Django shouldn't have fed the troll at all but that is easier said than done when one is not personally involved. When Shutzen tried his silly behaviour with me, I kicked him off rather than give him any importance by conversing with him. However, Django did not have the same advantage that I did and must have been so hopping mad that he temporarily took leave of his senses. I am certain that is all that has happened in this case.

So here are the facts. Shutzen has a known history of provocating people. Django was provocated and made a post that I am sure he is regreting and is ashamed off now.

If the Punjabis wish to villify the man for that one lapse, then I wont come in the way because in a way he deserves it. However, the Punjabis are also a large hearted people and it would make me happy to see some more evidence of that fact.

As far as I am concerned, I really don't think I have anything more to add to this thread. .

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Rusty,

I have copy of what Django said, If you want I can PM you..

Anyway I am out of this thread.. Do what you want to do..get him in or keep out its your wish but It will set a very wrong example for everyone here...
Mack The Knife Bana";p="42135 wrote: P.S.: I must have been online around 3:45 to 4:00 a.m.. What the dickens were you doing at that hour? I will most probably be going next weekend again, so let me know if you are interested.
Working..Saar....working...what else less mortals like us can do.. so got any 20 pounder.. and I hope you didn't brake your rod... :D :D

Can i let you know on Wednesday.

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Post by Mack The Knife » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:27 pm

Thanks. I think there has been a misunderstanding and proper communication between you and Inder. I know Inder and he's a good bloke and even though I do not know you, you come across as a decent sort. So let's just shake hands and continue disussing the Gurkha.

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Post by Mack The Knife » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:36 pm

Anyway I am out of this thread.. Do what you want to do..get him in or keep out its your wish but It will set a very wrong example for everyone here...
I have already done what I had to do and am not being coy about wanting Django back on the forum. However, that decision is left to a vote amongst the moderators. I don't own the board. ;)

We'll discuss the fishing when I put up that thread.

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Post by shutzen » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:22 pm

Gentlemen - I am on the currently banned list of this forum with the user name "shutzen" . A friend told me about what all was going on in this thread attributed to my name . I had emailed Abhijeet about this also. However I feel as my name is being dragged into this "in absentia" I should be allowed to make this post to clear my name.

1. I am not hiralal Bhiana

2. I am not into the construction business , nor own a JCB or a endeavour thunder.

3. I personally ( As in flesh and blood) know Django since over the past 10 years. We were and are and hope to remain very dear friends Over the years we have been through a lot and know a lot about each other. He knows about my vehicles and I know about his so we have no need to discuss our possesions in a public forum when we can talk face to face. eg. About 5 years back he had a problem with his VFJ jonga ,Me and two other friends helped sort the problem out and I dont think till today anyone ever even heard about it, I'm sure Django will know what I am talking about. He and I both know a lot about each other and we have never had anyone come and say anything about such a thing between us and I am sure it will continue like this. I suppose this takes the wind out of Rustum Bana's allegations that I am the guy (troll)making these posts.

4. Rustum bana & Abhijeet pl. stop calling me a troll and that I posted the messages as I have other things to do than just trouble you. Rustom banned me for just telling him to charge current price for the goods he was selling and I am okay with that . I am into the computer hardware and software business over the last 12 years and if I wanted to make those posts then I would have done so in a proper manner using a web proxy or anonymiser. I know enough about the Internet to figure out how this is supposed to be done.

5. Whatever response Django wrote ( I read that too) was uncalled for and grossly inappropriate. It tickles me no end to see Rustum Bana go out of the way to justify the outburst which has no place on any public forum. I fully agree with penpusher & Kanwar here and a appology from Django is in order.

6. I will not like to post further on this topic. Pl. stop attributing this and the other goofs at me. If you go through my posts about the shooting sports I have gone out of the way to give detailed replies to the questions and whatever I have written is correct to the best of my knowledge. There are so many shooters out there but they dont even bother to answer peoples questions in real life let alone online. I think that by sharing my experience I can do my part to spread the cult of shooting sports and therefore I am making the effort. I will only be posting my results in the NSCC (BB) whenever that happens here & maybe if anything interesting happens in our state championship ofcourse.

7. My best wishes to all the members here & may all your trolls live under the bridge ;).
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Post by Mack The Knife » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:16 pm

Shutzen,

You have always been a troll and will remain one.

Please don't bother coming back as we can manage pretty well without your inputs.

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