Me & My Shotguns

[Khan_Imran]

It was about 8 years back, when I purchased my first semi-auto shotgun--a gas-operated grand Standard Super Trophy twenty gauge—and I immediately fell in love with semi-auto shotguns. And my Intuitive cognition on the matter has not changed much during the couple of years. That grand Standard was set on my mind only because it was my first, as it goes with many things. But, it was a huge jump up from the bolt action and the Crescent double barrel that ushered in.

As a result of the fact that I've owned and shot various game birds with multiple copies of every Browning semi automatic,, along with , Benelli, Frenchi, Winchester, Remington, and Beretta models. You can consider I've formed some views over all this time.

Semi-automatic guns fall into 2 classifications of actions, gas operated and recoil operated. Either expanding gas from the fired cartridge is diverted to conduct the action and eject the empty case, or we have recoil operated semi-autos. The long recoil action is better exemplified by the square back browning Auto-Five and related guns based on John's ( Browning ) design work: the Remington Model 11, Franchi Model 47, and the Savage. In these weapons, the barrel and breech bolt recoil into the action for at least the whole length of the shell.

Short recoil actions comprise of the now outmoded Val Browning Double Auto, Remington 11 / 48, and the more topical Benelli repeaters. The barrel and bolt unlock after a brief movement, and momentum carries the bolt the rest of the way back to spew the fired cartridge

cipher ever displaces fit, and Not any ever will in a Skatter gun, and personal preferences remain just that. My hands-on experience with the Benelli Super Black Eagle and related models has been less than gratifying. The gun kicks, and in exalted volume shooting situations can pound you into the ground like a tent portion. Their triggers have been universally puny, and are difficult to easily improve. No seasoned shooter or hunter I know of bothers with them, but the SBE's have a firm following in the field, enormously for waterfowlers, as they are promoted as SUPER RELIABLE

Remington 1100 series, well known for their soft recoil, are among the voluminously famed shotguns of all time. These are the guns that actually started the gas operated circumvolution in auto loaders. The guns having slender and graceful lines like the 1100's, with their machined steel receivers and checkered walnut stocks, are perhaps the most beautiful auto loaders ever made. The coming Remington 11 / 87 gas guns retain the styling of the 1100 and integrate a gas pressure relief valve that allows them to shoot all cartridges, from slant target loads to 3 magnums, without adjustment

The Beretta's and Browning's claim extended durability, integrate a gas pressure relief valve that permits them to handle a big variety of loads and, dissimilar to the 1100, don't need O rings to get them to work. Beretta guns are just clearly good, and have been from the 300/302/303 series up to the recent A390 ( and now known as 3901) and the 391 and other versions.

It took Browning a considerable period to restore the A-5 (I personally feel it cannot really be replaced), with the sickly received 2000, a500, and 500G models. The Browning B-80 was and is a good gun, but congenitally is a Beretta 302 with a steel receiver preference. Nevertheless, browning irrevocably did it with the appealing Browning Gold (and its variation vended as the Winchester SuperX2), and miscellaneous models and stock options continue to be added almost every year.

It's a lot more easy to get the triple with a semi-auto than any 2 shot weapon, and with the clear successfulness of the beretta, Browning and remington gas-operated semi-automatic's, there are adequate choices and configurations to delight most shooters. As this buddy of mine likes to say, shotguns are made just for the birds, and he certainly is right. Any scatter gun sports enthusiast should find contemporary semi-autos inestimable of their thoughtful attention.

[mundaire]

Interesting stuff... thanks for sharing your experiences Imran I'm afraid I have zero experience with semi-auto shotguns, but maybe some other members can pitch in with their own views on this subject.

Rusty, any progress on the A-5 front? I take it you will be looking at restocking it sometime soon? If they have synthetic stock options available, it might be an idea to import one of those in stead of making do with a carpenters idea of what a gun stock should be....

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[penpusher]

There was an A5 shotgun stock for sale at micksguns.com

[Mack The Knife]

Rusty, any progress on the A-5 front?

SANJAY! Move your blimmin' ar*e!!!

I take it you will be looking at restocking it sometime soon? If they have synthetic stock options available.

Considering the repair at the grip started coming apart after five shots, I have little choice in the matter. Synthetic stocks (fore and aft) are available but they have the Prince of Wales grips rather than the straight grip that I favour. Not that I have a choice...

[penpusher]

Just checked.It is still on sale for 50 pounds.Has the Price of WHALES grips though

[Mack The Knife]

Has the Price of WHALES grips though

Hehehe...

[Khan_Imran]

Hi Abhijeet,
Just wanted to share this news with you and all IFG members that due to financial crises I've sold all my shotguns. Being a passionate hunter I'm going through a worst phase as I just cant hunt anymore. I just hope things get better that would enable me to enjoy my favorite passion. The outdoors and wildlife. Just dont know as to which semi-automatic shotgun I will have in future ?...

IMRAN.

[Mack The Knife]

Hi Abhijeet,
Just wanted to share this news with you and all IFG members that due to financial crises I've sold all my shotguns.

I can empathise with that. Stiff upper lip and all that bull and I hope you can sort things out soon.

All the best.

[art_collector]

How do i post the picture of my gun. I cant figure out how to use the photobucket.Any way I could show it on the forum.

AC

[Grumpy]

"Has the Price of WHALES grips though"

No good for you then Dodger - obviously intended for a harpoon gun.
( )
- And what is the `Price` of WHALES grips anyway ?
( - Yeah, I know, £50 apparently. )

The Remington 11/87 isn`t exactly `coming` as it`s been around since 1987 - the clue is in the model number.

[Vikram]

Imran miyan, you will get them back soon.

AC, Email the pics to any of the mods, we can do that for you.

Or follow these simple steps. Log onto photobucket. Click on upload.Upload your photo from your computer.Once loaded,click on the image tab.It's copied and ready.Just paste it in your post.Your pic is uploaded on to IFG.

Best-
Vikram

[art_collector]

Thanks Vikram that was indeed helpful. Managed to share some beautiful pictures that a friend sent me.

Regards,
AC

[art_collector]

[Grumpy]

Appears to be a Holland & Holland Royal SLE with hand detachable locks and gold lined cocking indicators.......and barrels that have had a nasty attack of rust at some time.

[HSharief]

My first real GUN was a Beretta Extrema. It was a great gun to shoot, fit me well, shot softly but got really dirty really fast. The last part I didn't like so traded it for a O/U. I currently have a Benelli SBE. The pics are in the Hunting thread that Amit posted.

http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?t=2542

It fits me well to and doesn't kick at all. The comb was a bit low so i put on a wrap around comb and it shoots great. SBEs kicking hard is mostly due to fit I think.

I also like the looks of the Beretta 391 and Browning A5. Shot most other autoloaders, they're all good, don't like the gas ones due to cleaning. The best one I'd shot was a Browning Double Action (DA). Very interesting to shoot and it pointed really good for me. A guy who shoots with me has a 20ga 1100 and it shoots really nicely. I shoot it once in a while and do OK with it. Absolutely no recoil at all. Imran bhai, I hope you are able to recover your shotguns soon.