Fourth Military World Games

[mundaire]

The Fourth Military World Games (MWG) are to be held in India this October.

No Guns, No Blood, No Victor, No Vanquished; Yet A World War
By: Col Rajesh Mishra

D day - 14 Oct 2007, battle ground-India, Hyderabad, Bombay(or Mumbai if you wish to call it so) and Goa to be precise. And the Armies of a whopping 90 nations to fight could mean a lot of blood bath. If the D day is known then the day of ceasefire is also known and on D plus seven, that is 21 Oct 2007, when all the hectic activities will come to a standstill, there will be jubilation in every camp as there will be no victor and no vanquished as in a war, though this too will be bitterly contested. Only bondage and friendship will triumph. In every respect, this will indeed be a unique war in which every thing will move to a clock work precision But no, as the organisers have already announced, no bullet will be fired, and of course, no blood shed either. Yes the toughest of the soldiers will indeed shed a lot of sweat. And the war that unfolds on 14 Oct 2007 in Hyderabad is a special event and so special it is that even 100 days prior to it, the cantonment are abuzz with frenetic activities through out the country, and the event is, 'Fourth Military World Games (MWG)'. Whilst in Nagaland, tree plantation, run for health and harmony was flagged off by Lt Gen MS Dadwal, Red Shield Division in Manipur along with IGAR(South) has also organised similar events in Manipur. Run for Fun, also attended by people from all walks of life, was flagged off by the GOC, Maj Gen TS Handa, SM, at Leimakhong on 08 Jul 07 along with planting of trees. Such activities were also held in the state where Army and Assam Rifle Units are located.

MWG are conducted under the aegis of the Consiel Internationale du Sport Militaire (CISM), an International Sports Association, which is open to the armed forces of all nations. India joined CISM in 1999 and has been actively involved in various activities of the organisation since then. With 127 member nations, CISM is the world's second largest sporting body after the International Olympic Committee.

Five founding nations - Belgium, Denmark, France, Luxembourg and the Netherlands- created CISM on 18 February 1948.Though there were very few members then, the founding fathers of this sporting body had some better plans Since its foundation in 1948, CISM's universality became increasingly real as the desire among the military to meet in sports arenas instead of battlegrounds was gradually growing. In 1919, 1500 athletes competed in 24 different sports in front of a large audience in Join Ville in the Paris suburbs

In 1951, it was the USA's turn to join. In 1952, Iraq, the Lebanon, Pakistan and Syria became members. And now the strength of the members is 127.

The MWG are a multi purpose sporting event organised every four years, one year before the Olympic games are held under the aegis of CISM. The event is based on CISM and Olympic spirit, without political, religious and racial discrimination. The first MWG were held in Rome from 04 to 16 September 1995 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the end of Second World War and ratification of UNO charter. CISM, by organising these games had given the most spectacular message of peace to the world. Those who seemed to be forever divided by political and ideological barriers came together under CISM flag in the name of friendship. The second edition of the games was held in 1999 in Zagreb, Croatia and the third was held in 2003 in Catania Sicily (Italy).

And the fourth edition is being held in India, for the first time in an Asian country for which 73 countries, about 4,500 athletes and around 1,560 officials have confirmed their participation thus far and the number might touch 5,000 competitors and about 100 participating countries. The largest contingent will be from host country. China and Germany have so far confirmed fielding 200 sportspersons each from their Armed Forces. Continent - wise, maximum participation will be from Europe, 34 out of the total of 38 nations of the continent will converge for the games which are also seen as a precursor to the Olympic Games. MWG will have 16 events, including Military pentathlon, shooting, Military Firing, Parachuting, Football, handball, Judo, Volleyball, athletics, Swimming, Sailing Triathlon, Boxing, Wrestling, hockey and Kabaddi. Several Olympic medal winners like World Judo Champion Sophie Mondiere, S Bibard (Shooting), 110 metres European hurdle champion Stamislavs Oijars and many like them will be seen in action.

Some quizzical eyebrows may be raised questioning the wisdom of yet another set of games when we already have Olympics, Commonwealth games, the Afro-Asian games and Asian games. But the MWG need to be seen in a slightly different perspective, a lot like the much vaunted track-two diplomacy which often has better pay offs. The MWG engages nations on a parallel sporting track while remaining low on organizational pressure for governments with outstanding pay off. Normally an international sporting meet of a size where about 100 countries are likely to participate would be unimaginable without plenty of grants and building mammoth infrastructure not to mention the usual organizational pain that accompanies such an exercise. However the Armed Forces, who are responsible for the conduct of the games, are approaching this event, which will be India's largest sporting extravaganza to date with usual quiet aplomb and self assurance which is an outcome of superb organizational acumen and the judicious use of resources at their disposal. It is for this reason alone that the magnitude of the impending event does not seem to have caused any trouble in their ranks.

It also needs to be appreciated that asking to host these games by a world body is a statement on the international confidence reposed in the country in general and in our Armed Forces in specific. The games are being hosted for the first time outside Europe and the organizational prowess displayed by our Armed Forces will certainly stand the country in good stead when bidding for future sporting event of similar magnitude. The games offer a wonderful opportunity for huge gains in image, diplomacy and generating good will without the attendant economic effort.

So count down has begun. Await with baited breath a fabulous sporting extravaganza, hitherto not seen in the country thus far. And as Maj Gen TS Handa, the GOC of Rd Shield Division had told some of the reporters' "Try and Be There".
(With inputs from PIB (Defense Wing)

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HI! Folx before the CISM games were held in October the Indian Army literally painted the country red with the huge amount of surplus taxpayers money it had to blow on giving full page press adverts, Tv adverts and holding run for CISM games in may towns across India. In Chandigarh they had a formation of 3 helicopters practice for 3 days to drop the games mascot "Bison" onto the Chandigarh lake Island. This utter disregard and out of context expenditure of blowing up the taxpayers money would only have been justified if they would have totally dominated the games - But alas our army only managed a pathetic overall rank of 20th with just a handfull of medals! I checked the performance of the Indian Army rifle team and what a horrifying performance they turned in with scores ranging from 544-565 for six shooters! The only saving grace was that about 17 shooters shot below the NRAI MQS for big bore rifle - that means they shot below 475

Anyways I think the Injun armies mission olympics has been exposed as the big hoax it always was ! they were trumpeting that only they can bag the medals because the civilians dont have enough discipline to compete in International sports and some skewed babu's also allocated humungous budgets to the army to use for setting up sports villages for its mission olympics - The way they were overboard about the run up to the games their silence after the games are over is deafening - Its as if the games never happened.

I for one feel that such blatant misuse of public funds should not be permitted and the Govt. should also work out some system so that outstanding civilian sportspersons can train at army facilities and foreign coaches and equiptment for the betterment of sports as a whole. There is a long way to go to facilitatethe sports culture in our country and unfortunaley as long as the sicko babus and their cronies keep amending the rules for their convinience we cannot but watch the system get worse - the time has come to start asking some hard questions and use the RTI act to tame down the misadventures of these babus .

[penpusher]

Nice suggestion.So are you going to follow it?

[Risala]

Getting a tally of 2 Golds 1 Silver 7 Silver and finishing in the 20th position out of 100 countries participating

isnt really such a such a bad result as you are a making it out to be.

The CISM games are a multi discipline sports event and not just restricted to shooting,the perfomance here

is a step in the right direction to achive the long term goal of achieving success in the Olympics.

I dont think that the Army has any where mentioned that civilian's are not upto the mark in rising to the

occasion when it comes to representing the country at the Olympics or any other games.

Sanjay

[mundaire]

Thread now merged with the original thread on the CISM games...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

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[quote="penpusher";p="30568"]Nice suggestion.So are you going to follow it?[/quote

You Betcha! First lemme get my hands on my Rifle in Jan next year then I am gonna put in two RTI apps. one in Chandigarh home secys office - asking him why his pals can get a all India licence without purchasing a weapon and why I as a sportsman can't till I have had the Rifle I have to import physically checked and entered on my licence by the DM office ( Putting me through the hassle of getting a NOC from the DM office and a TL from DCP licencing New Delhi before I can get it released from customs needlessly wasting time , effort and money in the process.)
- AND-
the other one in the Ministry of Sports New Delhi asking about why "Certain" people are permitted to import any caliber they feel like and I ahve to go by the regulations - well will surely raise some hackles I suppose but will set some things majorly in perspective. Will update you on the answers somehow the babus and I always have a run in with each other and in the end I prevail with Gods grace and even though I have to suffer the delays but the system becomes aware and better for the next person in line- Will know that for sure next Jnauary when a friend of mine and my son put in their import apps.

[penpusher]

So why wait till January? Because the babus can screw you if you do and you don't want to lose the chance to lay your hands on a spanking new rifle?Be brave my lad ,be brave.

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So why wait till January? Because the babus can screw you if you do and you don't want to lose the chance to lay your hands on a spanking new rifle?Be brave my lad ,be brave.

Well this particular import has already reached "escape velocity" I have my import licence , PP valid for one year, Order has already been made in my file at home secys office to extend the area of the new rifles to all India , Duty exemption certificate - have applied for permit to get dangerous cargo and then I havta wait for the goodies to land up . Dont see how any Babu can harm me now - very very difficult and unlikley

Just too busy completing all the fromalities for the import, at work and with the renovation of my house. I just mentioned January as I would be relativly free but most likley when I have the time I will put in the RTI apps.

[Risala]

What Rifle are you importing & from where

Sanjay

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What Rifle are you importing & from where Sanjay

HI! I am getting a Blaser R93 LRS II ( LRS = long range sporter) in .308 with fluted match barrel from Germany

[mundaire]

What Rifle are you importing & from where Sanjay

HI! I am getting a Blaser R93 LRS II ( LRS = long range sporter) in .308 with fluted match barrel from Germany

.308 Win? That puts your earlier post on another thread in perspective now Sweet choice of kit, and an excellent calibre as well... my congratulations Shutzen!

IIRC they have a model with quick change barrels as well, is this feature available on this particular model as well?

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[shutzen]

.308 Win? That puts your earlier post on another thread in perspective now Sweet choice of kit, and an excellent calibre as well... my congratulations Shutzen!

IIRC they have a model with quick change barrels as well, is this feature available on this particular model as well?

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Thanks As they say jab tak haath mein saaman no aa jai aur nali garam no ho tab tak..... well I hope to get it before the forthcoming nationals and use it there - Well if u go through the notification the dumbass babu who drafted it has included both the 7.62 AND .308 cals. in the notification so I had no probs- I had mentioned it in context to civilians who are not shooters
Yes all the Blaser R93 and the other series have quick change barrels and boltheads so changing cals is done in a matter of minutes just with a allen key wrench.
Lemme get the stuff then I will post the pics and hands on review

[Risala]

Shutzen,

Congrats,I dont think you will have any problem getting it in,once the paper work is in order.

On arrival a good clearing agent should be able to clear it in a couple of days max.

Is this one of those single shot affairs,guess since it is a 7.62 you will be importing the ammo too.

But as a shooter are you entitled to buy ammo direct from the IOF,though am sure most would import it.

How much does a box of 10 cost abroad.

Sanjay

[shutzen]

Shutzen,

Congrats,I dont think you will have any problem getting it in,once the paper work is in order.

On arrival a good clearing agent should be able to clear it in a couple of days max.

Is this one of those single shot affairs,guess since it is a 7.62 you will be importing the ammo too.

But as a shooter are you entitled to buy ammo direct from the IOF,though am sure most would import it.

How much does a box of 10 cost abroad.

Sanjay

HI! Sanjay thanks for you good wishes. It is sadly one of those "single shot" affairs . Well the .308 can saftley fire the 7.62 ammo but not vice versa as the .308 develops chamber presures significantly higher than the 7.62 and the .308 should only be fired in a 7.62 after checking with the manufacturer. The semiauto or auto 7.62 simply go bust with the higher pressure and the high recoil damage the gas pistons and charging mechanism.

Well I suppose I could buy ammo from IOF but NO competition rifle shooter ever uses IOF ammo in comps so no use even thinking about it.

Most of the tgt. shooting ammo is sold in packs of 20 and these are a few costs of popular makes. You will have a few cheaper brands but also more exotic and expensive ones too. Prices are the prevailing pricies in Germany without transportation costs to India. The real savings are for the handloaders as their cost is about 1/3 that of factory ammo - thats the reason why most big bore comp. shooter laos their own ammo - plus they feel it gives them more control over the process and better results however in India we have to import loaded carts.

1. Remington Premier match 20 Nos. 168 grain HPBT Eur. 20
2. RWS bionic black Eur. 54
3. Lapua afficinado Eur. 37
4. Norma Diamondline Eur. 36

This is just a few of the brands havent got pricing for black hills or fedral which are good US brands.