.450 No.1 Express

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Re: .450 No.1 Express

Post by marksman » Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:19 pm

"Frankly you can never shoot this weapon for the purpose it was bought or used hereafter. It is a good showpiece and will be a subject of yarn spinning by old hunters over a fire and drinks".
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I totally agree but just a thought came across to get it under CURIO category and enjoy handling it to hearts content. What say????

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Re: .450 No.1 Express

Post by timmy » Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:38 pm

veeveeaar wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:12 pm
marksman wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:44 pm
An uncle of mine owns a 450/400 double, converted to 3 1/4' by the factory in London and reproofed in the days of yore. He used it successfully a few times on tigers and Bisons up north. What might it fetch? just curious.

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Frankly you can never shoot this weapon for the purpose it was bought or used hereafter. It is a good showpiece and will be a subject of yarn spinning by old hunters over a fire and drinks.
True enough, unless one can afford expensive African hunts.

However, while shooting is the primary purpose for firearms, it isn't their only use.

Sometimes, it's very nice to hold a gun, to look at it, and to appreciate its attributes.

I had an uncle who passed away, but before he died, he gave me a 45 Colt Single Action Army commemorative, a beautiful revolver that was brand new -- it had never been fired. It is beautiful with perfect polishing, Colt Royal Blue, and gold plated flourishes. I will never shoot it. It sits in the safe and every now and then, I get it out and look at it. I don't even handle it. It sits there in its red satin box and I look at it.

My point is, shooting is great and I love doing that, but that isn't the only reason to own a gun. Everyone has their reasons for why they might want a firearm -- maybe someone will look at marksman's uncle's double rifle and think of stories by Robert Ruark, or Peter Capstick, or the exploits of those famous British hunters of over a century ago. Maybe they admire fine workmanship. Maybe they want such things to sell them at a profit later. As long as what people do with guns is legal, ethical, and harms nobody else, I don't feel qualified to question their motives, but I do hope that they enjoy their gun!
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Re: .450 No.1 Express

Post by Safarihunter » Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:35 pm

Hello, I'm from Dehradun and am looking for a DBBL rifle in 450/400 or 500/450 calibre.. I will be grateful to know any sellers....

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Re: .450 No.1 Express

Post by Safarihunter » Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:43 pm

Hi! The 500/450 is a proprietary cartridge developed by H&H in 1898. It's a well known big game/ dangerous game cartridge, widely used in Africa by PH's and American hunters in Africa on elephant, rhino, Cape buffalo. It became popular after President Teddy Roosevelts African safari in 1907. A rifle of this calibre was gifted to him by 4 friends. It's loaded with 70 grs Cordite and pushes a 480 gr bullet with over 5000 lbs ME. (I'M looking to buy one).

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Re: .450 No.1 Express

Post by Safarihunter » Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:19 am

This appellation is probably for the Rigby .450 express. J. Rigby introduced this proprietary cartridge for both single and double rifles. It was discontinued soon after the ban on this calibre by govt on its import into parts of Africa and India. Also, Eley Bros amalgamated with Kynoch and the company decided to discontinue some calibre cartridges.The H&H 500/450 is a distinctly separate , proprietary cartridge developed by Hollands. The sectional density of the 480 gr bullet is excellent (.334-337) and adds to its popularity with PH's in Africa. The cartridge was succeeded by the 500/465:H&H with similar bullets, ME, and carried the name .500/465 INDIA EXPRESS. The barrels were 24" or even 22" ( the muzzle blast !), built thus for the dense Indian forests. My late father had one and shot about 5 tigers with it.

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Re: .450 No.1 Express

Post by Deepraj patil1616 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:29 am

Safarihunter wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:35 pm
Hello, I'm from Dehradun and am looking for a DBBL rifle in 450/400 or 500/450 calibre.. I will be grateful to know any sellers....
I know someone who have one 450/400 double rifle, I am sending my contact in your DM text me.

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