New Hunting Knife

[Grumpy]

If a hunting knfe is required then a Bowie isn`t much use.....especially not a Bowie with a 9" blade.
The original Bowies were butchers knives and didn`t have a clip point - they were carving/jointing knives and as such not hunting knives but intended for fighting by the Bowie brothers. Adding a clip point just made them even more useless as hunting knives.
I`m not sure what the Mizo Bowie actually is - a true Bowie knife doesn`t have a curly wurly blade, a skinner doesn`t have a 9" clip point blade ....... and neither does a hunter.

[Yaj]

If a hunting knfe is required then a Bowie isn`t much use.....especially not a Bowie with a 9" blade.
The original Bowies were butchers knives and didn`t have a clip point - they were carving/jointing knives and as such not hunting knives but intended for fighting by the Bowie brothers. Adding a clip point just made them even more useless as hunting knives.
I`m not sure what the Mizo Bowie actually is - a true Bowie knife doesn`t have a curly wurly blade, a skinner doesn`t have a 9" clip point blade ....... and neither does a hunter.

I am quite aware as to what the original Bowie looked like,in fact i have posted on it on another Bowie thread. The Mizo knife was referred to as a Bowie in keeping with the present usage of the term.
I had mentioned that its not a skinner, it is more of an outdoors/camp knfe for light chopping,slicing,de limbing etc.
Regards,
Yaj.

[eljefe]

Does its job admirably well too.Last outing with the pump house gang, the Mizo Bowie came in very handy to hack my way past some thorny bushes , into a better looking swim...Am still biased about a RFI khukri, but this panga/Gollok, whatever, is doing a great job.Am half tempted to rip out the wooden handle, grind down the tang and lay on some more exotic slabs, and a fresh coat of blue?
But didnt want to upset the original cutlers sensibilities...

[Grumpy]

"But didnt want to upset the original cutlers sensibilities..."

Sorry about that, almost choked............... Just as well that I`d swallowed my tea as otherwise I would have `redecorated` the PC Screen and computer cabinet !

Do you think the `original cutlers sensibilities` would be offended if you sent him a small parcel of 400 grade emery cloth ?

A machete would make a better brush clearance tool than either that `Bowie` or a Khukri........and so would a 25cm Puukko.

[Pran]

Am still biased about a RFI khukri

Jefe, does the Ishapore rifle factory still make khukuris?

Pran

[Yaj]

A machete would make a better brush clearance tool than either that `Bowie` or a Khukri........and so would a 25cm Puukko.

A machete is a time tested brush clearance tool but there are khukris which can match or even excel it.The HI Kobra excels at the job though obviously it is much more expensive than the generic machete.
Why do you think a 25 cm puukko would do better as a brush clearance tool though?The thinner blade profile may be handicapped by lack of heft required due to the decreased length.

Regards,
Yaj.

[Olly]

ya, but a machete would be illegal to carry...

[Grumpy]

I suggested a 25cm Puukko as a direct comparison with the 9` Mizo `Bowie` - which is actually about an inch shorter. The 25 cm Puukkos have a similar blade shape to a straight machete and make excellent multi-purpose `camp` knives - a LOT better than a curly `Bowie`.
Ah yes, the ubiquitous HI Kobra: Have you ever used one ? It`s a fighting design based on a long Sirupati and as such is possibly the most useless Khukri design of all for brush clearance as the narrow blade lacks weight - especially towards the point. I don`t care what the `expert` opinion on the knife forums is as most of those people have never directly compared a Kobra with a more traditional form of Khukri. Go to Nepal and see what is in daily use there - it`s most likely to be an Ang Chola or even the much derided M43 pattern. One thing you definitely won`t see is anything resembling a HI Kobra.
And then of course there are the Tramontina machetes that Ghurkas have brought home...........................
If a machete is illegal to carry then a Khukri of the same length must be also.

[Risala]

Re- daily use it is the Bhujpure perhaps the most common of all the Khuks ie amonst the locals.

A heavy duty utility khukri.

Sanjay

[Mack The Knife]

ya, but a machete would be illegal to carry...

What makes you say that?

It's nothing but a tool and I know of no Indian law that says you cannot own one or carry one when outdoors. Villagers carry and use a slightly modified version of one all the time.

If anything, the bowie would have a tougher time proving its raison d'etre as it is prmarily a fighting knife rather than an outdoor/camp knife.

[Grumpy]

Sanjay, yes, agreed: The Bhojpure is very similar to the Ang Chola and the distribution of use is largely geographic - the Ang Chola is the form most likely to be found in the East of the country. The military patterns such as the M43 can be found all over the country......and are also similar to the two above

[Grumpy]

Yes, well..........Clip point Bowie knives - useless for general use. A form evolved from stylistic rather than practical considerations.........and not even very good for fighting.
The modern Tanto with short Kamasu-Kissabi is another pretty useless design. It`s interesting that many of those Special Forces that adopted this form of `Tanto` are abandoning it after discovering that its stabbing ability is about as good as that of a shovel.......it`s funny how some of us could tell that just by looking at the knives ! The traditional Tanto form - virtually unseen amongst Western knife-makers - is actually far superior as a fighting knife. The `new` generation of fighting knives owe a lot of their blade styles to established designs such as the Fairburn-Sykes and John Ek Commando knives but with superior grips.
The point is though that none of them are any good at all as hunting or trail/camp knives.

[Vikram]

Grumps, where do you find these Beretta Loveless knives?Are they available in non-synthetic grips?Thanks.

Best-
Vikram

[snIPer]

what about winchester knives? how are they?

[Mack The Knife]

Grumps, where do you find these Beretta Loveless knives?Are they available in non-synthetic grips?Thanks.

Best-
Vikram

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