Shotgun buying advice for a newbie (in the UK)

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:14 pm

thanks grumpy
is it worth it?
or should i just go for a regular fitting?

Post by **Grumpy** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:28 pm

"Is it worth it ?"

I don`t think so - especially when the fitting costs are taken into account - the adjustable butt is going to cost over £300 in total and the comb another £200. Plus there`s the extra weight added. Much better to have the stock lengthened conventionally.

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:28 pm

sorry about the late reply and general inactivity.
will write another post explaining that in general ramblings.

in the meantime, plz check out:

http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa10 ... a/shooter/

cheers

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:57 pm

Shooter,

That is a fine looking gun indeed - congratulations!

Do tell more - how does it fit you? Seems like you've already had some time on the range with it - how does it shoot? Is this one of the Japanese (Miroku) made Browning's or is this one made in Belgium?

Once again, congratulations on acquiring a real beauty!

Cheers!
Abhijeet

P.S. - Looking forward to taking "her" for a spin, the next time I'm over

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:11 pm

thanks mundaire.
its in a very good condition. the pic shows the blemishes but thats more or less all there is.
it is obviously not new. it is a 425 so japanese (look out for a new post comin soon.)
it is in a very good condition.
fits me ok. if the stock was an inch longer welll.... but then ill get a recoil pad and let my layers of clothing take over in winters.
shoots ok. got 34/50 yesterday.
you are welcome to take her for a spin next time.

also ive persuaded my frnd not to buy a rizzini. i have shortlisted a lincoln and a bettinsoli for him. pounds 350 and 325 respectively.

Post by **Grumpy** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:51 pm

Ah, you made your mind up !
FINALLY you have your gun.
Well done.
Nice wood by the way.
It`s only `E.Rizzini` that you have to watch out for - `Lincoln` are also made by a Rizzini ( F.A.I.R. ) and B.Rizzini make super guns.

Post by **Vikram** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:34 pm

Hi Dev, Hearty congratulations.That is a super looking gun with nice wood. I am a sucker for nice wood on a gun. I am sure you would have loads of fun there.

Best-
Vikram

Post by **Sakobav** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:47 am

Congrats nice gun and have fun !

Cheers

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:41 pm

thanks everyone.
gettin it was a bigger 'mission' than anyone of us can imagine. will write a post bout in general ramblings about the difficulties one faces in the end.

yes the wood is very good. and i want to give a tip to all newbies, given to me by someone on sunday.

never wear metal watch or a metal bracelet (i do. see pics.) else it will spoil the wood long term. should be pretty obvious but a beginner (or me in particular) doesnt realise it till the wood is damaged.

i would especially like to thank grumpy for helping me make a knowledgable decision and vikram for giving me that final push over the fence.

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:42 pm

going to buy the second gun on saturday.
will post pics soon.

Post by **kanwar76** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:28 pm

shooter";p="23567 wrote: never wear metal watch or a metal bracelet (i do. see pics.) else it will spoil the wood long term. should be pretty obvious but a beginner (or me in particular) doesnt realise it till the wood is damaged.

Tell me about it, Messed up one friends HW77 with my Kada. I took care of it saving it from fences and everything else but never realized that my Kada is rubbing against it.. now I take it off before i touch any gun.

-Inder

Post by **Grumpy** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:08 am

People don`t realise how complicated buying a first gun actually is: There`s plenty of advice available - often completely contrary - which doesn`t help and far too much choice. All you can do is decide which gun meets your requirements most closely........or which one you fancy the most. Quite a lot like women in many ways.......except that it`s much easier to change a gun.
That you changed your mind from what you initially thought you would get is quite common......as is paying considerably more than you initially reckoned on. Don`t be surprised also if you go off the gun in a few months and fancy something racier or more high tech - that`s quite common as well. Just don`t fall into the trap of buying a dedicated Trap gun with a huge rib and weight equivalent to an artillery piece........those are intended for some of the American Trap variants. You`ll notice that the Olympic Trap disciplines are shot with very conventional looking guns.
I`m sorry to hear that you had problems getting your ticket.............It could have been worse: You might have decided to take your wife up to Scotland the same weekend that someone tried to turn a Jeep Cherokee into a incendiary bomb at Prestwick - that`s what happened to Anand. His only complaint was that the food was rotten.........................

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:44 pm

anand?
whats his user id?
must hav been a bad experience.

also i dont want to go into 'choke phobia' as one dealer put it (did he mean choke mania?)
i agree with him i just use 3/4 and 1/2 choke on my sporter all the time. is that fine/sufficient?

had been reading an article about the preffered guns, barrel length, chokes, ammo etc preferences of the famous shots in uk (diff categories like sporting skeet etc and male female.)

a lot of contradicting info for sporting.
plz advise.

Post by **Grumpy** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:47 am

Anand is 'Hamiclar01' - the mad Cambridge gas-passer.
Yeah, much too much conflicting advice. All you can do is use the combination that suits you best.
Longer barrels have been advocated for several years now - a movement started by Michael Yardley especially when used with small bores as the extra length helps to `steady` the gun. Sporters always used to have 28" barrels but nowadays most have 30" and quite a few have 32" barrels - just like Trap guns. I can`t say that I`ve noticed any real improvement in scores............ I always reckon that looser chokes are a better bet than tight ones. I used to use 1/4-1/2 for just about everyhing but have gone to 1/8-3/8 the last couple of years. Like I keep saying: `A chippy kill is a kill but a clean miss is a miss`.
You can easily get carried away worrying about chokes which is bound to adversely affect your shooting. If you are good enough you could use Cylinder/Cylinder or Full/Full all the time - it really doesn`t make that much difference. I remember several years ago being at a sporting shoot where people were have real trouble trying to nail one particular bird - a very high `floater`and were changing to very tight chokes. I smacked it every time using a Tula choked Skeet gun. `Tula` chokes have the `choked` area of a wider diameter than the bore. Even more open than cylinder but with a supposedly better pattern.

hamiclar01 · Post by **hamiclar01** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:10 am

Grumpy";p="23612 wrote: Anand is 'Hamiclar01' - the mad Cambridge gas-passer.

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