IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by ankur_ank007 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:06 pm

Basu wrote:National 45.....in 0.177....
Is it made by any company other than IHP ??
If it is of IHP.......and very old then its barrel is made of Hammerli most probably....
You should think twice before selling.
What is the serial no. ??

Basu
Hi,
Thank you for the valued piece of information. Yes it's by IHP National, it is considerably old. My father gifted it to me when I was in school. It was lying with the junks in my garage in Lucanon. This piece I picked and brought it with me to Gujarat this Dialing. The barrel and cylinder is heavily rusting and damaged. I would have been more than happy if I was able to restore it in budget.

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by ankur_ank007 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:14 pm

brihacharan wrote:Hello ankur_ank007 :D

> The fore-sight made of synthetic material is a recent addition, to IHP air rifles as also its synthetic stock....
> These in no way affect the performance; unless these have basic faults in their manufacturing....
> As regards to your mentioning that the rear sight except for screws, washers etc are synthetic, is a bit surprising....
> From the pics you have posted its rather difficult to ascertain as to what kind of material is used (metal / synthetic)...
> Lastly "PLEASE...do not use attention grabbing backgrounds while photographing" - keep your object (in this case your AR) on a plain background such as a plain bed-sheet so that the viewer's focus is on the AR...and not get diverted to the little bird framed with drift wood :lol:
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Point about the background is noted with regards sir. I am only an amateur and hobbyist with air rifles, shall be learning from experienced and veterans like you and others.
On the rear sight, the V-Notch is metal, I meant many of the parts are of synthetic material (what I can conclude by checking it from the outside). Performance is very good. Only problem is when the piston hits the cylinder, with the thud the sight adjustments are disturbed, may be due to loose screws or lighter material used.

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by Big Daddy » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:59 pm

[/quote]

Point about the background is noted with regards sir. I am only an amateur and hobbyist with air rifles, shall be learning from experienced and veterans like you and others.
On the rear sight, the V-Notch is metal, I meant many of the parts are of synthetic material (what I can conclude by checking it from the outside). Performance is very good. Only problem is when the piston hits the cylinder, with the thud the sight adjustments are disturbed, may be due to loose screws or lighter material used.[/quote]

Sites should not be disturbed for ever shot. Looks like your sites have some problem. Take close up shots of the sites and post 'em. You can be assured of advice.

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by ankur_ank007 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:40 pm

Big Daddy wrote:
Point about the background is noted with regards sir. I am only an amateur and hobbyist with air rifles, shall be learning from experienced and veterans like you and others.
On the rear sight, the V-Notch is metal, I meant many of the parts are of synthetic material (what I can conclude by checking it from the outside). Performance is very good. Only problem is when the piston hits the cylinder, with the thud the sight adjustments are disturbed, may be due to loose screws or lighter material used.[/quote]

Sites should not be disturbed for ever shot. Looks like your sites have some problem. Take close up shots of the sites and post 'em. You can be assured of advice.

BD[/quote]

Hi,

Surely I wI'll surely take the pictures and post. I am I am also saying the same, it seems there is some problem with the scope.

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by ankur_ank007 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:26 pm

Big Daddy wrote:
Sites should not be disturbed for ever shot. Looks like your sites have some problem. Take close up shots of the sites and post 'em. You can be assured of advice.

BD[/quote]

Dear Sir,

Sorry for the late response. I was out of town so was not able to click and post the pictures.

Please find some close up pictures of the sight and advise.

Also, please advise if I want to mount a scope on the rifle, which budget rail, mounts and scope I can go for?

Regards,
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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by bennedose » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:38 pm

Your sights look fine. If your shots are going haywire after every shot it could be you or the pellets. You will never know unless you bench rest and test to eliminate your aim as the culprit. If you are aiming right it means the problem is the pellet brand. What pellets do you use?

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by ankur_ank007 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:42 pm

bennedose wrote:Your sights look fine. If your shots are going haywire after every shot it could be you or the pellets. You will never know unless you bench rest and test to eliminate your aim as the culprit. If you are aiming right it means the problem is the pellet brand. What pellets do you use?
Dear Sir,

I am using Mastershot Wadcutters. May be the problem with the pellets. I tried it on a bench-rest and the groups were of approx half of an inch (3 shots).

I am sorry if I am doing something wrong as I am absolutely new in this.


Regards,

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by Basu » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:54 pm

Dear ankur,
Pellets may spray any where except centre,depending on your shooting ability.
The backsight is identical to my sight on SN45.
I found, it is very soft , easy and perfect for accuracy.
I wish if you see sathya's youtube video , you can fix the issue on your own .
Please identify the problem first then think of solving it.

Basu
Note : Pl.post photo of synthetic breech seal if it has that.
Not all those wander , are lost...............

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by ankur_ank007 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:38 pm

Basu wrote:Dear ankur,
Pellets may spray any where except centre,depending on your shooting ability.
The backsight is identical to my sight on SN45.
I found, it is very soft , easy and perfect for accuracy.
I wish if you see sathya's youtube video , you can fix the issue on your own .
Please identify the problem first then think of solving it.

Basu
Note : Pl.post photo of synthetic breech seal if it has that.
Dear Sir,

Noted with thanks.

I think this ability will only come with experience and feedbacks from people like you all.

Regards,

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by bennedose » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:54 pm

ankur_ank007 wrote:
I am using Mastershot Wadcutters. May be the problem with the pellets. I tried it on a bench-rest and the groups were of approx half of an inch (3 shots).

I am sorry if I am doing something wrong as I am absolutely new in this.


Regards,
Nothing to be sorry about. If you get a half inch grouping with 3 shots bench rested what makes you think the sights have a problem?

Do not adjust the sights. Test your grouping 10 shots at a time bench rested with different pellet types.

I have found Diana Shot flat heads from http://www.kovibazaar.com to be very consistent. My personal experience with Mastershot wadcutters + IHP 35 is not good. I also get good results with Marshal shot Flat head but they seem to be available only to me in a Bangalore shop. I have never found anyone even mentioning this brand on IFG

I had done a review of Diana shot pellets. This was the grouping for IHP 35
5 shot grouping for Diana shot flat head
Image

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by ankur_ank007 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:22 pm

bennedose wrote:
ankur_ank007 wrote:
I am using Mastershot Wadcutters. May be the problem with the pellets. I tried it on a bench-rest and the groups were of approx half of an inch (3 shots).

I am sorry if I am doing something wrong as I am absolutely new in this.


Regards,
Nothing to be sorry about. If you get a half inch grouping with 3 shots bench rested what makes you think the sights have a problem?

Do not adjust the sights. Test your grouping 10 shots at a time bench rested with different pellet types.

I have found Diana Shot flat heads from http://www.kovibazaar.com to be very consistent. My personal experience with Mastershot wadcutters + IHP 35 is not good. I also get good results with Marshal shot Flat head but they seem to be available only to me in a Bangalore shop. I have never found anyone even mentioning this brand on IFG

I had done a review of Diana shot pellets. This was the grouping for IHP 35
5 shot grouping for Diana shot flat head
[ Image ]

Hi,

Just ordered Diana Flat Head from kovibazaar and tomorrow will purchase that from local shop also and try to zero the sights on a bench-rest also. Let's see what the problem is.

Also, I saw a beginner's scope on the Kovi Bazaar website, can you suggest me mounting it on IHP model 35 and your views about it.
My IHP doesn't have a rail so I will have to get it welded so can I go ahead with a dovetail mount? What do you advise?

Regards,

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by brihacharan » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:41 am

Hi Ankur,

> Like bennedose suggests a change in pellet brand might rectify the accuracy of your AR :D
> Looking closely at the photographs of your AR's sights...it appears that the 'notch' on the sight does not correspond (align) with the 'notch' on the breech end of the barrel....perhaps this is why your shots are going astray!
> Try & align them in a straight line & see if the accuracy improves....(Just a suggestion)
Briha

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by ankur_ank007 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:07 am

brihacharan wrote:Hi Ankur,

> Like bennedose suggests a change in pellet brand might rectify the accuracy of your AR :D
> Looking closely at the photographs of your AR's sights...it appears that the 'notch' on the sight does not correspond (align) with the 'notch' on the breech end of the barrel....perhaps this is why your shots are going astray!
> Try & align them in a straight line & see if the accuracy improves....(Just a suggestion)
Briha
Dear Mr. Brihacharan,

Thanks for your feedback. The same thing I am trying to point out. What I am trying to say is, I align them for a shot and after firing a couple of shots, the screw is so lose that the alignment is disturbed automatically.

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by brihacharan » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:16 am

ankur_ank007 wrote:
brihacharan wrote: Hi Ankur,
> Like bennedose suggests a change in pellet brand might rectify the accuracy of your AR :D
> Looking closely at the photographs of your AR's sights...it appears that the 'notch' on the sight does not correspond (align) with the 'notch' on the breech end of the barrel....perhaps this is why your shots are going astray!
> Try & align them in a straight line & see if the accuracy improves....(Just a suggestion)
Briha
Dear Mr. Brihacharan,
Thanks for your feedback. The same thing I am trying to point out. What I am trying to say is, I align them for a shot and after firing a couple of shots, the screw is so lose that the alignment is disturbed automatically.
Regards
Hi Ankur,
> The pic below would give you a clearer picture of what I'm pointing out....
Image

> If the screws are getting loose I suggest you apply 'locktite' to the threads & tighten them or if the threads are worn out you may use a slightly larger screw to take care of the problem....but applying 'locktite' is a must.....
Briha

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Re: IHP MOdel 35 Air Rifle in 5.5 mm (.22) in Fibre Butt

Post by bennedose » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:11 pm

ankur_ank007 wrote:
Thanks for your feedback. The same thing I am trying to point out. What I am trying to say is, I align them for a shot and after firing a couple of shots, the screw is so lose that the alignment is disturbed automatically.

Regards
Which screw is loose? Elevation (up-down) or windage (side to side)?

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