Bringing Sword from Jaipur <Need Suggestions>

[aji_kappil]

Hi Everybody,

I will be in Jaipur during 1st week of Dec and I will be meeting a Pal who has shortlisted 3 Swords for me. I will be picking one of them and will be returning to Bengaluru via Air.

What will the best way to bring the Sword back to Bengaluru ?

1. via Air, Check-in Luggage ? If so, Do I have to inform the Airline in Advance ? Is there a Process in Place ?

2. Courier / Parcel from Jaipur ? If so, Any recommendations ?

Thanks and Regards,

Ajith

[farook]

You can bring them in through check in luggage. There are very few courier companies that accept swords as luggage. If you have other goods along they may accept it.

[aji_kappil]

Thanks a Ton Farook. Should I inform the Airlines even if it is in Check-in Luggage ?

[farook]

Nope, they follow the policy Don't ask don't tell. You may want to keep the purchase bill handy, just case they ask...

[kalashnikovcult]

I hope they don't seize under the Arms Act.

Nope, they follow the policy Don't ask don't tell. You may want to keep the purchase bill handy, just case they ask...

[farook]

The arms act does state that any sword beyond 9 inches in length, 2 inches in width and a blade on one side is restricted, exceptions are made for domestic, agricultural and ornate swords....

[Moin.]

My dear Sir; No you cannot. Your sword will be confiscated and worse you can be arrested as well for violation of Arms Act. You should not get it by train as well. Check with the arms dealers or handicraft exporters in Jaipur. They send these as courier marking them as handicraft items. I do not know who do it, but it can be done.

Regards
Moin

[kalashnikovcult]

I agree..this is what i was doubting as to why would Arms Act not be imposed .

My dear Sir; No you cannot. Your sword will be confiscated and worse you can be arrested as well for violation of Arms Act. You should not get it by train as well. Check with the arms dealers or handicraft exporters in Jaipur. They send these as courier marking them as handicraft items. I do not know who do it, but it can be done.

Regards
Moin

[farook]

Check with the arms dealers or handicraft exporters in Jaipur. They send these as courier marking them as handicraft items.

This would probably be a better way of doing it. Why not ask the seller himself to courier it to Bangalore. Being in the trade and with a TIN number he would able to convince the courier company

[TC]

Farook,

A member explains a situation and asks for suggestions from forum members. Before anyone responds you tell him (within 11 minutes of the first post to be precise) :

You can bring them in through check in luggage. There are very few courier companies that accept swords as luggage. If you have other goods along they may accept it.

And when he asks whether the airlines need to be informed in advance, you say :

Nope, they follow the policy Don't ask don't tell. You may want to keep the purchase bill handy, just case they ask...

And when someone with experience, Moin in this case, gives an opinion you say this :

Check with the arms dealers or handicraft exporters in Jaipur. They send these as courier marking them as handicraft items.

This would probably be a better way of doing it. Why not ask the seller himself to courier it to Bangalore. Being in the trade and with a TIN number he would able to convince the courier company

Which statement of yours should we take and consider. The first or the last one ?

My point is if you do not know something for sure then please do not post your opinion. It is not mandatory for members to respond to every post. This is the only gun/gun rights forum of value and substance in India and we would love to keep it that way. Since I bump into your posts in virtually every section let me give an advice for free : The internet gives us a lot of information on guns, ammo and gun laws. Millions of them them in fact. But it takes years of field experience to actually know and understand what to do with all that information; save them in our brain cells or simply junk them. Hope I could explain myself.

Cheers

TC

[farook]

There is nothing illegal in travelling with swords. As long as you have them checked in, if you have no access to them they don't care about it.If I was not sure of this I won't give a wrong advise to a person and get him into trouble and serious trouble. I speak from my personal experience and experience of my friends.

Since he is buying it from a registered dealer the dealer may give a courier service a try. My personal experience with courier is very bad. I tried to send a few of them called a dozen courier companies no one accepted the cargo for whatever price. Perhaps it's difficult from Bangalore where swords are relatively scarce as compared to other states.

Being a business man, a well established business man I do travel a lot and with heavy electronic gadgets. Fully equipped to accept Skype, office 365 conference calls and a lot more. My monthly net connectivity bills go upto pretty huge. Answering a blog is as easy writing an sms to me. I am happy to help my brothers at IFG with whatever information they want courtesy my contacts with high level Ips officers and 30 years of gun enthusiasm. They can ask me as many questions as they want and I would answer without getting agitated.

[TC]

There is nothing illegal in travelling with swords. As long as you have them checked in, if you have no access to them they don't care about it.If I was not sure of this I won't give a wrong advise to a person and get him into trouble and serious trouble. I speak from my personal experience and experience of my friends.

You are WRONG. According to law and by law I mean law as it is laid down in black and white, carrying a sword is illegal in India unless you have a permit/licence OR you belong to a religion or sect that is allowed to carry swords or is exempted from law. At some airport somebody may not stop you when you carry back some fancy and typical touristy blade from a holiday destination. But any security personnel at that same airport can actually put you into a lot of trouble for carrying that same fancy touristy blade if he wants to. Just because someone is looking the other way or is being lenient does not mean carrying a sword becomes legal. Try getting a real sharp sword, especially one that shows signs of age and use, through airport security and you will know what I mean.
Had possession of swords by Indians been legal then every blade enthusiast could have imported swords by the dozens because they all come packed and gets checked into the cargo hold.
I speak from a pretty vast personal experience and given the collection of blades (only a fraction of which is uploaded on this forum) I speak with authority. Do you realize that for some strange yet obvious reasons our experiences seem to be quite different ?

Being a business man, a well established business man I do travel a lot and with heavy electronic gadgets. Fully equipped to accept Skype, office 365 conference calls and a lot more. My monthly net connectivity bills go upto pretty huge. Answering a blog is as easy writing an sms to me. I am happy to help my brothers at IFG with whatever information they want courtesy my contacts with high level Ips officers and 30 years of gun enthusiastic. They can ask me as many questions as they want and I would answer without getting aggregated.

Utterly hilarious Going by your argument, IFG members should pose all their questions and queries to Bill Gates or Mukesh Ambani from tomorrow. Surely they must be more well established businessmen with more sophisticated gadgets and more connectivity options
By writing this you have only confirmed what I implied : that the only source of all your knowledge is the internet and not years of experience on the field which is NECESSARY for any of us to open our mouth on any subject. Please note that field experience does not mean having a neighbour who is a gun dealer and who shows you some new gun ever week and you take the weapon in your hand and become an expert. I have sent thousands of rounds down the range and in the air .... and through at least a hundred weapons ranging from tiny .22 CB cap derringers to 155 mm Howitzers and still I feel like learning. Hope you get the picture my friend.

Also, contacts with "high level IPS officers" cannot make you an expert in firearms or laws related to firearms. I am personally dealing with IPS officers of "all levels" for more than 25 years now and can say on record that only a handful take interest in guns or gather knowledge about guns other than the ones issued to the police. Their main objective is to uphold law of the land and protect our citizens. In fact, only a tiny fraction of IPS officers ever gets to fire a shot in the line of duty. Trust me, knowing police constables, armory officers, clerks and sub-inspectors could have made you more knowledgeable about guns and laws, the theories and practices.

Its become a long note. Don't think there is any need to get into your last claim....

and 30 years of gun enthusiastic

and your firm belief ....

They can ask me as many questions as they want and I would answer without getting aggregated.

whatever that means.



TC

[farook]

There is nothing illegal in travelling with swords. As long as you have them checked in, if you have no access to them they don't care about it.If I was not sure of this I won't give a wrong advise to a person and get him into trouble and serious trouble. I speak from my personal experience and experience of my friends.

You are WRONG. According to law and by law I mean law as it is laid down in black and white, carrying a sword is illegal in India unless you have a permit/licence OR you belong to a religion or sect that is allowed to carry swords or is exempted from law. C

Tell me when your in Bangalore next and we can meet up. Want so show you a few things. Take my word for it you'll love it

[kalashnikovcult]

Fa-roooooooooook.....rook jao bhaisaab...There is nothing illegal in travelling with swords - Khalllaaaasssssss.....1st line is enough to describe your experience !!!!!

There is nothing illegal in travelling with swords. As long as you have them checked in, if you have no access to them they don't care about it.If I was not sure of this I won't give a wrong advise to a person and get him into trouble and serious trouble. I speak from my personal experience and experience of my friends.

Since he is buying it from a registered dealer the dealer may give a courier service a try. My personal experience with courier is very bad. I tried to send a few of them called a dozen courier companies no one accepted the cargo for whatever price. Perhaps it's difficult from Bangalore where swords are relatively scarce as compared to other states.

Being a business man, a well established business man I do travel a lot and with heavy electronic gadgets. Fully equipped to accept Skype, office 365 conference calls and a lot more. My monthly net connectivity bills go upto pretty huge. Answering a blog is as easy writing an sms to me. I am happy to help my brothers at IFG with whatever information they want courtesy my contacts with high level Ips officers and 30 years of gun enthusiasm. They can ask me as many questions as they want and I would answer without getting agitated.

[Vikram]

I believe this thread has run its course and the OP got the information he needed.