US national held with live bullets on 18-09-2013

[Sakobav]

Much to do about nothing I hope common sense prevails and they let him go ..he is an engineer just plain oversight while packing

[zaheer.bakshi]

Once I forgot to take out Gun oil from my duffle bag. I travelled from Delhi to Singapore and singapore to delhi. The bag was hand carried all the way and no one checked me . The bottle clearly mentioned gun oil. But these security scanners, no matter the Security gossips, but I have seen, they took out my Cigarette lighter every time . I am still confused how this guy managed from our international security checks and US security clearance.

I believe his story as I work for Drilling rigs and there is a drill ship in bhubaneswar name Platinum Explorer. And to repair the engines only the Engineer from the manufacture company is authorized to repair due to warranty issues. This is what he was telling the authorities. They can do a background check on him as he is caught under arms act. So they will do what is necessary and the company will take care, who has invited him for the job.

[Mozzad]

Friend's friend had a bullet in his bag as well,which they misplaced during their hunting trip in US,which went un detected while flying to India.This was seen on flight back and made a grave issue.

[bennedose]

Has anyone actually had a look at the laws that govern carrying of live ammunition on flights? It is easy to Google for that and read them. It would also be a good idea to be aware of the penalty for breaking the law. I think all of us as responsible and mature, law abiding gun owners or users know better than most other people issues relating to firearms, ammunition and the law.

[TwoRivers]

Has anyone actually had a look at the laws that govern carrying of live ammunition on flights? It is easy to Google for that and read them. It would also be a good idea to be aware of the penalty for breaking the law. I think all of us as responsible and mature, law abiding gun owners or users know better than most other people issues relating to firearms, ammunition and the law.

There are no international laws (yet) that prohibit carrying certain amounts of ammunition in checked baggage. You simply declare it when you check your bag. It would only be a problem in countries that make possession of ammunition without permit a crime. Such as India.

[xl_target]

Once I forgot to take out Gun oil from my duffle bag. I travelled from Delhi to Singapore and singapore to delhi. The bag was hand carried all the way and no one checked me . The bottle clearly mentioned gun oil. But these security scanners, no matter the Security gossips, but I have seen, they took out my Cigarette lighter every time . I am still confused how this guy managed from our international security checks and US security clearance.

Because most of what the TSA (in the USA) and their equivalents in other countries do is mostly feel-good, Security Theater. Sure they will usually catch something obvious that shows up but in many cases, you have unmotivated and bored employees just going through the motions. Note how many have got through the system and not got caught till they finished their journeys; the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, etc. It was just the incompetence of the criminals involved that prevented a tragedy. Ask any airline employee.

There are some countries like Israel who actually do a proper job of screening but in most of the rest of the world, its mostly drama designed to make passengers feel safer.
I have no problem believing that the stuff was in his bag the whole time.

[timmy]

I have no problem believing that the stuff was in his bag the whole time.

Me, either. I've occasionally found a 22 round in a pocket, or a bag, or whatever. Anyone who uses a 22 much knows that they are not like shooting a centerfire weapon, where ammo comes in boxes and is metered out in a different way. For a 22 shooter, the box of 50 is usually not very amenable to keeping half full, especially if they are in a the little cardboard boxes. Quite often, someone will dump the remainder of the box in a pocket or bag or whatever. The little things get lost easily and are often not counted -- my Marlin takes 17 rounds, so there's often an odd number in the box or what's left of a box. 22 rounds hide in pockets and especially backpacks, where there are seam corners that can catch and conceal them. OK, the guy screwed up. OK, it was against the law. But also, OK, it needs to be admitted that the guy was not any threat to anyone on the aircraft or anything or anyone else. Making a big noise may serve to alert the public that security is on the ball, but on the other hand, he'd have been caught earlier if that was the case.

Now, if it's Barry Switzer with a 357 in his suitcase, I agree: smack the clown with the book. In this case, however, fine the guy, smack him on the hand, and get on with doing something that is protecting the public.

[ckkalyan]

OK, the guy screwed up. OK, it was against the law. But also, OK, it needs to be admitted that the guy was not any threat to anyone on the aircraft or anything or anyone else. Making a big noise may serve to alert the public that security is on the ball, but on the other hand, he'd have been caught earlier if that was the case.

I quite agree!

and he was about to board a private chopper....

Come on...I had once forgotten to transfer my prized S/S pocket knife (dad's 1942 British Army Version) from hand carry to check-in before boarding an International Emirates flight. I was pulled up but when I refused to hand it over for 'hold and destroy' and refused to fly without it, opting to check out and check back in and take the next flight - a very sweet thing (cabin crew) agreed to carry it for me and hand it over on landing at destination. Problem solved!

Everyone forgets once in a while!

[jatindra Singh Deo]

This is a old news Mr Hurtubise has been on bail and putting up at a Hotel La Franklin owned by a close relative for a month or so,was reserved to start with but grew friendly to the staff and was very cheerfull towards the latter half of his stay ,was what I heard from the staff and the owner .Left a long time back probably in good shape back home .Was in trouble because the local police argued he had .22 rounds which are locally available smuggled via Bihar .Stupid argument but his local counsel saw him through it seems .