Where this World heading??

[Vassili Zaitsev]

Absolutely sadden by this news. Where are we heading as a civilization? This story bought tears in my eyes...Are those people civilized or just butchers?

Read the news.


http://worldobserveronline.com/2013/12/ ... verything/

[xl_target]

One has the choice to not believe everything one reads in the media. Especially the conclusions of this bit of journalistic "brilliance".
While there is no denying that people are dying in large numbers in Syria, who is responsible is not so easily determined and neither is who supports whom. Middle Eastern politics are riven with (sometimes centuries old) tribal and religious politics that often defy simple analysis.

This is the same rag that called Narendra Modi:

An ex- teaboy with blood on his hands

They also said:

Now this same man – banned from entering the US and shunned by British diplomats – has been elected India’s new prime minister after a landslide election victory.

Implying that he was some kind of international Pariah.
Quote from Here

Yet the Washington Post (among others) says:

In 2005, India’s Narendra Modi was denied a U.S. visitor’s visa because of concerns that he violated religious freedoms as a political leader. But since his party’s resounding win in national elections this month, the U.S. government has rushed to repair the breach.
President Obama called to invite Modi to Washington. Secretary of State John F. Kerry sent his regards. And after Modi’s swearing-in ceremony Monday as prime minister, Nisha Biswal, the U.S. assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asia, tweeted about the “wonderful celebration of democracy,” adding a cozy postscript about the dhokla snacks that were served — a specialty of Modi’s state.

Quote from Here

News Media should offer facts and not opinion. They should also not write articles pointing their readers to conclusions that are not warranted.
Anytime a news source starts printing conclusions without attributing sources, get suspicious that there is an agenda being fulfilled somewhere.... or maybe just sensationalism to sell more copies of their rag.

While the above sounds rather pompous, it was not a criticism of Vassilli's sadness at the situation in Syria.That is a definite tragedy and worthy of notice.
I just think that the writer makes some rather baseless conclusions and tries to distill a very complex situation into a few paragraphs.

[brihacharan]

“Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never – in nothing, great or small, large or petty – never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense” — Winston Churchill, Oct 29, 1941

> Unbelievable
> Those in power can say such things & get away with it - even be admired & quoted - an irony beyond comprehension
> "Never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense” - really????
> What about others who think & act likewise - eh?
> Surprisingly the champions of "Human Rights" are those very same who were once 'perpetrators' or even continue it till date this atrocity...
> Media & journalism wield a brush & choose colors to paint images of what they see or perceive while ignoring the truth...Sensationalism is the hallmark of their creed....
> Every civilization in the world once thrived & got destroyed with the passage of time and in the process spawned a human race that lost touch with the basic tenets of 'humanity' ...'Survive by Subjugation' seems to be the order of the day....
> QUO VADIS - yeah, where are we headed?
Briha

[bennedose]

There is a shia Muslim versus Sunni Muslim war going on - mainly funded by Saudi Arabia (for the Sunnis) and Iran (for the Shias). The war is being fought as a proxy war not in Saudi or Iran but in unstable states with a mixed Sunni-Shia population where one or the other group is more than 10% So you find sunni massacring sias in Pakistan, shias massacring sunnis in Iraq and a bit of both in Syria.

Countries which have a huge majority (>95%) of either shias or sunnis are relatively peaceful. But countries with a mixture of shias and sunnis bear the brunt of killings. The only countries with a mix of shia and sunni where they are not killing each other are India and some central Asian countries.

Bahrain is a sunni ruled country that has a troublesome (for them) large shia poplation. They have used Pakistani (sunni) soldiers to control shia rioters.

It is rumoured that Saudi has funded Pakistani (sunni) nuclear weapons program so that they can have something to oppose any potential Iranian (shia) nuclear weapons

There is an image of an Iraqi man holding up his headless baby daughter indicative of how bad things are. The "world" need not go this way f we are honest about what is happening and are ready to oppose this sort of crap.

[brihacharan]

Bennedose wrote:
The "world" need not go this way if we are honest about what is happening and are ready to oppose this sort of crap.

Whenever & wherever there is a decline of righteousness
and the abuse of humanity prevails,
To restore equanimity & peace to mankind
I shall appear time & again!

We are all familiar with the above prophecy....Only time will tell, when, where & how!
Briha

[xl_target]

> Unbelievable
> Those in power can say such things & get away with it - even be admired & quoted - an irony beyond comprehension

You don't believe Winston Churchill was admirable or quotable? Especially during WW2?

Surprisingly the champions of "Human Rights" are those very same who were once 'perpetrators' or even continue it till date this atrocity...

Not sure who you're talking about......?

Media & journalism wield a brush & choose colors to paint images of what they see or perceive while ignoring the truth...Sensationalism is the hallmark of their creed....

> Every civilization in the world once thrived & got destroyed with the passage of time and in the process spawned a human race that lost touch with the basic tenets of 'humanity' ...'Survive by Subjugation' seems to be the order of the day....
> QUO VADIS - yeah, where are we headed?

Hey, Whoever is using Briharcharan's computer, stop it.
His posts are usually so clear and concise.

[xl_target]

There is a shia Muslim versus Sunni Muslim war going on - mainly funded by Saudi Arabia (for the Sunnis) and Iran (for the Shias). The war is being fought as a proxy war not in Saudi or Iran but in unstable states with a mixed Sunni-Shia population where one or the other group is more than 10% So you find sunni massacring sias in Pakistan, shias massacring sunnis in Iraq and a bit of both in Syria.

The only countries with a mix of shia and sunni where they are not killing each other are India and some central Asian countries.

Interesting that you bring that up. I was listening to the radio a long time ago and there was a discussion on why there seems to be so much terrorism spawned in certain countries. I forget who the man being interviewed was but he said something that made me think. He said that the country with the third highest number of muslims is India. He asked "Do you know why you don't see any international terrorists emanating out of India"? His contention was that India has a judicial system and a wronged person has some recourse to right that wrong, so they feel no reason to go to extremes. His implication was that in most middle eastern countries, people don't have any recourse to right the wrongs that have been perpetuated against them, so they are more likely to view terrorism as a legitimate way to right those wrongs. An opinion, of course but certainly something to think about.

There is an image of an Iraqi man holding up his headless baby daughter indicative of how bad things are. The "world" need not go this way f we are honest about what is happening and are ready to oppose this sort of crap.

Unfortunately, this is nothing new or even surprising, is it? From the beginning of recorded history, man has been doing this to his own species. Some examples that I can think off; Thessaloniki, Contantinople in 1182, The Incas and their human sacrifices, The Spanish treatment of the Incas after their conquest of parts of South America, The Spanish Inquisition, Kublai Khan's European adventure, The Armenian massacre by the Turks in the 1890's, and on and on.
In more recent times, I can think of an almost continuous litany of incidents; National Socialism in Germany (6 million), Marxism–Leninism/Stalinism in the former CCCP (20 million+), the Cultural Revolution in China, The Pol Pot regime in Cambodia, The Biafran war in Nigeria, Rwanda, the former Yugoslavia, Iraqi supression of the Iraqi Kurds, etc etc etc.
It has never stopped since the dawn of known history. It is one, almost unbroken, string of atrocities. No part of the world has been immune.

What can you and I do personally to remedy this? At the most we can persuade our Governments to intervene. If they do, they are going to be reviled by one faction or the other and risk embroiling their countries in a never ending quagmire of sectarian violence that has been going on for thousands of years. it is no wonder that most countries want nothing to do with the current mess there.