Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express - a real sleeper?
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Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express - a real sleeper?
Hello All,
The day after Christmas I got a postcard in the mail from Cabela's. They were offering "Employee Discount Pricing" on all items in their store. Since I have 2 stores in my area, one 35 minutes north, the other 60 minutes south, and since I didn't get myself anything for Christmas, I decided to "road-trip" to see if there was anything in their respective Gun Libraries that I really needed (wanted) for which to use the discount coupon.
Well, it didn't take long to find something. I had never before seen one of these in person, only in pictures, and very few of those. The rifle was a little known Custom Safari rifle, built by Winchester. It was a "Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express". (they also made a lesser standard production model called the Safari Express)
I believe this rifle may be somewhat of a little known sleeper having been introduced in the late 1990s through the Winchester Custom Shop. It was discontinued within only 5 - 6 years, for reasons unknown, perhaps it was the high price, selling for nearly $5000 in 2007 I was told most of the orders for the Custom African Model came at Safari Club Shows, where the rifle was displayed a lot.
This particular rifle was 99.9% condition, looked unfired, and is chambered in 416 Remington Mag. It falls midway between my 375 H&H, and my 458 Win Mag. Its my first, and only 40 cal dangerous game rifle. Well, I used this "self-justification" for the purchase, as well as the additional 15%+ employee discount pricing I received.
The first picture shows an advertisement I found. The subsequent pictures show the rifle that I purchased. It came with a Leopold 1-1/2-5 scope on Talley lever-rings. I have contacted Winchester's Historical Department to obtain specific history on the rifle's configuration / purchase. Apparently stock dimensions, recoil pads, scopes and mounts, could all be specified when ordering the rifle. One reference I located told of ordering a rifle in September of 2000, and receiving it 13 months later in October, 2001.
As usual, I couldn't go to bed with an unfired rifle in the house, so I ventured out in sub zero temperatures to test fire it. 5 shots produced a nice one-hole group at 100 yds. I improvised some handloads by reforming 375 H&H brass, and using a set of 416 Hoffman dies for loading. I'm anxious to see what it will do when the real 416 brass and proper reloading dies arrive.
I'd be interested to hear if there are others out there that own this model, and their opinions about it.
100 yards
5 shots = 1" group
400g Horn RN
67g IMR 4895
F215
2050 fps
The day after Christmas I got a postcard in the mail from Cabela's. They were offering "Employee Discount Pricing" on all items in their store. Since I have 2 stores in my area, one 35 minutes north, the other 60 minutes south, and since I didn't get myself anything for Christmas, I decided to "road-trip" to see if there was anything in their respective Gun Libraries that I really needed (wanted) for which to use the discount coupon.
Well, it didn't take long to find something. I had never before seen one of these in person, only in pictures, and very few of those. The rifle was a little known Custom Safari rifle, built by Winchester. It was a "Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express". (they also made a lesser standard production model called the Safari Express)
I believe this rifle may be somewhat of a little known sleeper having been introduced in the late 1990s through the Winchester Custom Shop. It was discontinued within only 5 - 6 years, for reasons unknown, perhaps it was the high price, selling for nearly $5000 in 2007 I was told most of the orders for the Custom African Model came at Safari Club Shows, where the rifle was displayed a lot.
This particular rifle was 99.9% condition, looked unfired, and is chambered in 416 Remington Mag. It falls midway between my 375 H&H, and my 458 Win Mag. Its my first, and only 40 cal dangerous game rifle. Well, I used this "self-justification" for the purchase, as well as the additional 15%+ employee discount pricing I received.
The first picture shows an advertisement I found. The subsequent pictures show the rifle that I purchased. It came with a Leopold 1-1/2-5 scope on Talley lever-rings. I have contacted Winchester's Historical Department to obtain specific history on the rifle's configuration / purchase. Apparently stock dimensions, recoil pads, scopes and mounts, could all be specified when ordering the rifle. One reference I located told of ordering a rifle in September of 2000, and receiving it 13 months later in October, 2001.
As usual, I couldn't go to bed with an unfired rifle in the house, so I ventured out in sub zero temperatures to test fire it. 5 shots produced a nice one-hole group at 100 yds. I improvised some handloads by reforming 375 H&H brass, and using a set of 416 Hoffman dies for loading. I'm anxious to see what it will do when the real 416 brass and proper reloading dies arrive.
I'd be interested to hear if there are others out there that own this model, and their opinions about it.
100 yards
5 shots = 1" group
400g Horn RN
67g IMR 4895
F215
2050 fps
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Re: Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express - a real slee
Buckstix,
Congratulations,again! Another very nice looking rifle in your collection. I am a bit amazed that these big bores shoot one hole groups at 100 yards!
Best-
Vikram
Congratulations,again! Another very nice looking rifle in your collection. I am a bit amazed that these big bores shoot one hole groups at 100 yards!
Best-
Vikram
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Re: Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express - a real slee
+ 1Vikram wrote:Buckstix,
Congratulations,again! Another very nice looking rifle in your collection. I am a bit amazed that these big bores shoot one hole groups at 100 yards!
Best-
Vikram
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Re: Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express - a real slee
Hello TC,
This was just an improvised load. I just wanted a to test the rifle with a low-velocity load. I found some 416 Hornady 400g RN bullets at a local gun shop. They must have been there a while. Under all the shelf dust were price tags that said $32.
I searched the Internet until I found a load in the low 2000 fps range (instead of the many that were near 2500 fps)
I didn't have full-length sizing dies, only a set of 416 Hoffman RCBS dies that I once found at a local gun show for only $25. I always buy under-priced dies for rifles I don't have.
Since I was using once-fired 375 H&H brass, they were undersized and fell right into the chamber. I used the Hoffman dies to open the neck to 416, neck size, and seat and crimp the bullets. Some of my best groups have come from "fire-forming" cases.
This was just an improvised load. I just wanted a to test the rifle with a low-velocity load. I found some 416 Hornady 400g RN bullets at a local gun shop. They must have been there a while. Under all the shelf dust were price tags that said $32.
I searched the Internet until I found a load in the low 2000 fps range (instead of the many that were near 2500 fps)
I didn't have full-length sizing dies, only a set of 416 Hoffman RCBS dies that I once found at a local gun show for only $25. I always buy under-priced dies for rifles I don't have.
Since I was using once-fired 375 H&H brass, they were undersized and fell right into the chamber. I used the Hoffman dies to open the neck to 416, neck size, and seat and crimp the bullets. Some of my best groups have come from "fire-forming" cases.
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Re: Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express - a real slee
What a lovely chrismas gift you've picked up.
Great shooting buckstix.
Great shooting buckstix.
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Hello prashantsingh,
Thanks for the reply. I always wanted a 416, and I was a very good boy last year, so I deserved a nice Christmas present.
Thanks for the reply. I always wanted a 416, and I was a very good boy last year, so I deserved a nice Christmas present.
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Re: Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express - a real slee
The Model 70 has been on of my favorite rifles especially the Pre 64s with their Control Round Feed
I note with interest the two cross bolts embedded in your stock instead of the usual one that Winchester used for its heavy calibers.
Whoever ordered that stock knew what he was doing, because it seems like a straight recoil design, and if the length of pull is right for you, you wouldn't feel too much recoil especially if you opt for the lower 2000 speeds
And coming from the Custom shop, that famous Model 70 trigger would be already adjusted to some sweet poundage.
I note with interest the two cross bolts embedded in your stock instead of the usual one that Winchester used for its heavy calibers.
Whoever ordered that stock knew what he was doing, because it seems like a straight recoil design, and if the length of pull is right for you, you wouldn't feel too much recoil especially if you opt for the lower 2000 speeds
And coming from the Custom shop, that famous Model 70 trigger would be already adjusted to some sweet poundage.
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Hello skeetshot,
Yes, the 2 cross bolts have heads that are deeply embedded below the surface of the wood, and have "daisy" petal engraving on each. Length of pull is exactly 14" and the stock fits me perfectly. I'm thinking I'm gonna try some 2500+ fps loads just to test the recoil pad. The rifle has a 1-3/8" thick "Kick-Eez®" Recoil Pad installed, not the 1" Pachmayr® Decelerator® pad as mentioned in the Winchester advertisement. Based on quality of fit, I believe "Kick-Eez®" was factory installed. I think the Winchester Historian will be able to tell me which pad was specified by the customer.
And the factory trigger is fabulous, perfectly adjusted. Its better than any factory model 70 trigger that I've ever tied.
Yes, the 2 cross bolts have heads that are deeply embedded below the surface of the wood, and have "daisy" petal engraving on each. Length of pull is exactly 14" and the stock fits me perfectly. I'm thinking I'm gonna try some 2500+ fps loads just to test the recoil pad. The rifle has a 1-3/8" thick "Kick-Eez®" Recoil Pad installed, not the 1" Pachmayr® Decelerator® pad as mentioned in the Winchester advertisement. Based on quality of fit, I believe "Kick-Eez®" was factory installed. I think the Winchester Historian will be able to tell me which pad was specified by the customer.
And the factory trigger is fabulous, perfectly adjusted. Its better than any factory model 70 trigger that I've ever tied.
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Re: Winchester Model 70 Custom African Express - a real slee
Hi Buckstix,
> There couldn't have been a better Christmas present for you
> Looks great & shoots great too as you have mentioned... Like the sleek stock & well contoured pistol grip...
> If you can post some pics of groupings at 100, 200 yds - would be nice
Briha
> There couldn't have been a better Christmas present for you
> Looks great & shoots great too as you have mentioned... Like the sleek stock & well contoured pistol grip...
> If you can post some pics of groupings at 100, 200 yds - would be nice
Briha
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Hello brihacharan,
When I get around to testing different loads at longer ranges, I'll post some targets.
When I get around to testing different loads at longer ranges, I'll post some targets.
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Now that's a really tight group
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Lead sled ? Different scope ?buckstix wrote:Hello brihacharan,
When I get around to testing different loads at longer ranges, I'll post some targets.
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Beautiful rifle, Buckstix.
Let us know how she shoots with your handloads.
Thanks for sharing.
Let us know how she shoots with your handloads.
Thanks for sharing.
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Hello skeetshot,
Thanks for your reply.
Hello xl_target,
I never owned a lead-sled, and never will. And I always work up loads with the scope I intend to use for hunting. So long as you have a good "aiming" target, small groups are possible.
Thanks for your reply.
Hello xl_target,
I never owned a lead-sled, and never will. And I always work up loads with the scope I intend to use for hunting. So long as you have a good "aiming" target, small groups are possible.
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buckstix wrote:Hello skeetshot,
Thanks for your reply.
Hello xl_target,
I never owned a lead-sled, and never will. And I always work up loads with the scope I intend to use for hunting. So long as you have a good "aiming" target, small groups are possible.
I usually am able to shoot about 15 shots from my 375 off the bench before I get jumpy.