How loud are they?

[Vikram]

You do know that you don't need anything expensive?
Cheap foam earplugs work as hearing protection and an pair of cheap industrial safety glasses will serve as eye protection.
For that matter,even a pair of wraparound polycarbonate lensed sunglasses will work.

+1. If nothing else, rolled-up cotton would do too.


Best-
Vikram

[Skyman]

What about playing music while you shoot? if you turn it up will it help?

[Kumarnishith]

What about playing music while you shoot? if you turn it up will it help?

To offset the noise produced on firing a gun you have to play the music louder than that...sound is measured in decibel whether it is produced by a gun or a CD player...Sound of equal decibel will produce equal damage to the ears!!
I am beginning to think you derive some kind of eternal pleasure while framing these one of a kind of highly intellectual queries!!



-Nishith

[tirpassion]

Hello skyman,

If you do not mind, could you please explain the reason behind your query.

In simple terms and with limited knowledge of science, I understand that sound is an energy. Excuse me if I am wrong.
When a shot is fired a combustion reaction takes place where chemical energy is transformed to produce kinetic energy for the bullet liberating heat, light and sound energy at the same time. It depends on the equipment (gun type, gun design, ammo, ammo design, muzzle brake, etc. etc.etc.) in what proportions these energies are distributed. For example, a .22LR ammo will produce more sound energy from a pistol and less kinetic energy (compared to a rifle) while the same .22LR ammo will produce less sound energy from a rifle (compared to pistol) and more kinetic energy.

Now if you are looking for a gun to make noise, weapons which shoot blank cartridges make a lot of noise too. But again, my question is what are you looking for ? Unless, you are up to top secret experiments to invent something revolutionary , my faculties of reflection, unluckily, could not find out the reason of your post .

regards
tirpassion

[bennedose]

What about playing music while you shoot? if you turn it up will it help?

It will help to make you go deaf sooner. It will help some ENT surgeon improve his golf handicap

[Skyman]

When i study, i use foam earplugs rated at 32 db noise reduction.There is total silence save for some really loud noises.Sudden noises however get through.Constant noises do not.

I am curious as to why, and if additional constant noise can dull the sudden noises.

[Kumarnishith]

When i study, i use foam earplugs rated at 32 db noise reduction.There is total silence save for some really loud noises.Sudden noises however get through.Constant noises do not.

I am curious as to why, and if additional constant noise can dull the sudden noises.

Aah you should have mentioned this before...
You can always wear this while studying!! No chance of getting disturbed by any noise...guaranteed!!!
These are Hearing Protection Helmet designed for Navy Aircraft Carrier Deck Crews



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Extremely effective

-Nishith

[Mark]

When i study, i use foam earplugs rated at 32 db noise reduction.There is total silence save for some really loud noises.Sudden noises however get through.Constant noises do not.

I am curious as to why, and if additional constant noise can dull the sudden noises.

It is not "dulling" the noise Skyman, it is damaging your ears' nerve cells enough so it does not seem as loud to you. And then it does not seem as "loud" anymore, so even less protective measures are taken. It truly can be a vicious cycle, especially among older people who do not think a noise is "loud" even though logic says it is (such as gunfire or power tools) so they continue to not wear hearing protection which then damages their hearing even more, even though they d not sense it. So they get even deafer, and take even less precautions....


The tragic issue nowadays is that hearing loss, once it occurs, is considered irreversible with modern medicine.

[Skyman]

No what i am saying is if there already is some form of chatter, perhaps some shots are only a little louder than the chatter and not as loud as occurring amidst silence.

This is with protection on...

I think however my original questions have been answered.Thank you.

[bennedose]

It is not "dulling" the noise Skyman, it is damaging your ears' nerve cells enough so it does not seem as loud to you. And then it does not seem as "loud" anymore, so even less protective measures are taken. It truly can be a vicious cycle,

+1

Hearing loss is being seen by doctors more and more often in young people who listen to loud music using earphones.

The funny thing here in India is that every time someone wants to have a private function, even a party or celebration, one can hire speakers, amplifiers and microphones. The equipment comes with staff who set up and operate the equipment, nominally as you might want them to do. But in fact those young men (its always young men) are invariably partially deaf and they always turn up the volume way waaay higher that you might want. if you ask them to turn it down, they get uncomfortable - they can't hear it

[FN-Five-Seven]

For a typical Indian , the rented or purchased audio equipment ain't worth the money , if it ain't loud enough to deafen themselves and their neighbors or even the entire housing complex for that matter .

So a BOSE audio entertainment system will always an overpriced Sound Box ( Yes , that the term widely used for speakers ) which does not get as loud as an Indian made or Chinese made equipment .

Coming back to the topic , I want to know what is your opinion & experiences with suppressors . I am not saying or implying in any way that they substitute for proper ear protection equipment , but how many of you have used them ?

All I know that you need a special barrel with threads at the muzzle end to mount the suppressor and there legalities that you have to pay some Tax Stamp or something in US .

How are the accuracy & FPS of the bullet affected when suppressors are used ?

F-N-Five-Seven

[Grumpy]

"What about playing music while you shoot? if you turn it up will it help?"
If the music is loud enough to overpower the sound of a rifle/pistol shot you are guaranteed to be damaging your hearing.
I`ve spent most of my adult life shooting ( almost always with hearing protection ) and playing electric bass/electric guitar. Surprise, surprise, I have substantial high frequency hearing loss.
Shooting any firearm without ADEQUATE hearing protection is dumb.

[Grumpy]

A moderator doesn`t effect a bullets velocity ( not that I`ve found anyway ) but CAN effect accuracy and/or the point of impact. I`ve never experienced accuracy being effected adversely when using a mod, in fact the opposite is more often the case in my experience but the point of impact is usually effected - which just means altering the sights/scope to suit.
Something else to consider is that even with the use of a moderator the muzzle report can still be LOUD.
It`s probably the case that most active hunters/stalkers use moderators on rifles in the UK nowadays - a rifle that isn`t threaded for a mod is worth substantially less than one that is.