Walther PPK 7.62cal./.32

[Yasho]

Friends,
How is this Walther pistol mod.PPK in terms of built, reliability etc.
Which are other comparable pistols in this category.
Please provide info.
Thnx.

[eljefe]

Walther PPK is in 7.65mm or .32 ACP
standard load is 7+1
Most times feed is reliable with imported ammo

Browning /Colt officers model are pistols you may find here in India commonly.
The IOFB 32 cal pistol is another...

[shahid]

Walther PPK comes in .22LR as well. PPK/s is 6 shots in .32 and other calibres, namely 9 mm which is not in the NP class in India. The normal PPK is 7 shots.

Elegant pistol, good looks, James Bond's choice, macho, will get you the girls sporting a Walther PPK is superb, but in an emergency or real action it is unreliable, the blow back system mechanism had too many moving parts. History of jamming.

Sights also not too great. Fair. A bit time taking to align.

Walther P 88 is a far more reilable Pistol.

But no other handgun than Walther PPK for all those 007 clones.

[jonahpach]

Have tried both the walther PPK and the P-88 in .32 and I rate the P-88 much higher than the PPK. The later tended to 'chimney' after every 3rd or 4th shot.. Maybe it was just me, but accuracy was also nothing to write home about. A friend just bought a brand new PPK .32 for 3Lakhs (Whew) But I guess its a bargain since I was offered one at a gunshop in N. Delhi last year and he quoted a whopping 12 lakhs!! No way..

Jonah

[eljefe]

excuse me, was this for a 32 ppk? or for a 357 mag, or a H&H 375?? 8 )

[jonahpach]

PPK/.32 nothing more nothing less

Jonah

[cottage cheese]

PPK/.32 nothing more nothing less

Jonah

The Walter PP series is nice and stylish. Other than the sleek thingy and its DA feature I'm not a big fan of these pieces- I've used and fired a new PP (not PPK)- could never complain about its quality. It belonged to a former politician who imported it in the 80's never fired it (Actually) and forgot about it. After he passed away his son brought it for maintainence and to show him how to use it. What a piece.. Factory fresh with two magazines, cleaning kit and its very own Walter plastic case. Funny thing is he bought a Beretta Model84 holster for it.

[mehulkamdar]

Let's not compare apples and oranges here - the PP/PPK/PPKS/TPH series guns are all blowback autopistols designed in the 1930s whereas the P88 is a locked breech autopistol designed in the late 1980s. There is simply no comparison between these. If the PP series are to be compared to other pistolss then they would inevitably have to be compared to other autopistols from that era - the Mauser HSc and the single action auto but beautifully made Heinrich Ortgies.

I have more than a little experience with all of these and if I were to buy a handgun of that vintage in India, I would look for a pristine Ortgies sample as a first choice. If a less experienced shooter were looking for a handgun, I would suggest the Mauser HSc. The PPK has too much of a tendency to jam and this is not just my opinion - read the Jane's Infantry Weapons series to check on the British Police's experience with them especially with VIP protection units. They threw them out a long time ago. For a hobby shooter with the neeed for occasional protection, they may be OK, but for someone who is really in danger, I would suggest al alternative to the old Walther handguns.

[art_collector]

Gosh..........................12 lacs for a PPK.....was he selling u a pistol or wanted to you to pay for his home EMI too

Art Collector

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I own both a PPK 7.65 pistol + a Webly Scot .32 revolver. The latter once fell down & upon impact fired with the safety on & its 1st round chamber empty. The bullet whizzed past my ear as i was bending over it. Had I accidently fired it then its 1st
would draw a blank, its a safety precaution my dad had taught me. Hell no, even without my finger near its trigger it almost blew my brains out. Whereas, my PPK has had its share of falls but it has never threatened my existence. Viva PPK!!

Moderator's Note: Allow me to make a pertinent point here - Earlier revolvers (like the Webley, mentioned above) did not have safety bars in front of the hammer and therefore many people would carry them with one chamber empty. This chamber was the one directly in front of the hammer, and in the unfortunate case of the revolver being dropped/ struck etc. this ensured that the hammer would fall on an empty chamber. ONLY IF the trigger was actually PULLED, causing the cylinder to rotate to the next chamber
and consequently the hammer to fall on a loaded chamber (the one next in line to the empty one) COULD the gun actually go off.

In the incident described above, there is a mention leaving the cylinder empty as described, but that the gun fell and actually went off! This is simply IMPOSSIBLE, for the reason described by me earlier.

UNFORTUNATELY there is a theory that a lot of people abide by India and that is - one should always carry the first chamber (that is the one that will fire on the trigger being pulled) empty - so as to prevent someone from snatching your gun and shooting you with it. The logic given being that the split second in which the person doing the snatching will confused as to why the gun did not go off, one would have time to grab it back or get away or something This is in fact something that you will even find a lot of policemen doing... very common practice indeed! BUT ONE OF THE SILLIEST PIECE OF ADVICE EVER! - WHY? Well, I suggest a member start a thread on this under the "Self Defence" section and am sure members will respond in earnest.

[jonahpach]

I own both a PPK 7.65 pistol + a Webly Scot .32 revolver. The latter once fell down & upon impact fired with the safety on & its 1st round chamber empty.

I dont know how that could be possible on a webly revolver.. or any revolver for that matter with the chamber under the hammer empty there is absolutely no way that a fall could cause the chamber cylinder to revolve under the hammer unless someone had inadvertently revolved the cylinder by hand before it fell..

Jonah

[mehulkamdar]

Thanks, Jonah, for the very valid post. We do get a lot of tall talk and BS on the forums these days, and, while the newspaper article has got us some interested new members, inevitably, like flies towards good food on a summer's day, there will be BS artists.

Best to be amused by this crap from a wannabe trying to talk big than to accord him any seriousness.

[Mark]

Gentlemen,

Even Mark Twain was aware of the dangers of unloaded firearms!

Here are his viewpoints on the matter, written over 100 years ago!


Don't meddle with old unloaded firearms. They are the most deadly and unerring things that have ever been created by man. You don't have to take any pains at all with them; you don't have to have a rest, you don't have to have any sights on the gun, you don't have to take aim, even. No, you just pick out a relative and bang away, and you are sure to get him. A youth who can't hit a cathedral at thirty yards with a Gatling gun in three-quarters of an hour, can take up an old empty musket and bag his mother every time at a hundred. Think what Waterloo would have been if one of the armies had been boys armed with old rusty muskets supposed not to be loaded, and the other army had been composed of their female relations. The very thought of it makes me shudder.

- Advice to Youth speech, 4/15/1882

[Vikram]

Mark, that reminded me of this very well remembered piece of Mark Twain.

'I was armed to the teeth with a pitiful little Smith &
Wesson's seven-shooter, which carried a ball like a homoeopathic pill,
and it took the whole seven to make a dose for an adult. But I thought
it was grand. It appeared to me to be a dangerous weapon. It only had
one fault--you could not hit anything with it. One of our "conductors"
practiced awhile on a cow with it, and as long as she stood still and
behaved herself she was safe; but as soon as she went to moving about,
and he got to shooting at other things, she came to grief. The Secretary
had a small-sized Colt's revolver strapped around him for protection
against the Indians, and to guard against accidents he carried it
uncapped.'

OT again. I first found this excerpt in a book on the gun fighters of the west. I have it in my collection in India and I am not able to recall the author's name.

Best-
Vikram

[rvn_venky]

Hi all,

Pl pardon my ignorance/insolence. But why would any person offer to pay in lakhs(buy/sell) for a walther ppk when the same is available at www.waltheramerica.com for usd555=INR 25000/- and presuming that one has the .32 licence in india. he could actually fly to US with the only intention of buying it and returning back and yet would spend just about a lakh or less.

Thanks
Rahul