1953 SIMSON, SUHL (THURNGEN) Doube barrel 12B - NOT FOR SALE

[ckalli84]

Beautifull gun.
Being your father's gun, I'm sure it means more to you than just the monetary value.

yes, definitely!

[Katana]

It seems to be the same as my father"s. I wish it would have been in better shape though. The colour case hardening seems to have worn off and the gun opened a couple of times.

I was also wondering if your gun came with a box? We have plenty of boxes at home but the guns have all gone. Could never figure out which one was which. Been thinking of restoring a nice canvas covered box for our gun. Would appreciate if you have any leads on that.

BTW, I noticed in the pics that the indicators were out. Best to get yourself a pair of snap caps and dry fire them to relieve the springs.

[TC]

This is not a gun.....







Its a treasure


TC

[Sakobav]

This is not a gun.....







Its a treasure


TC

keep this heirloom its priceless better than all those Churchills etc

[ckalli84]

It seems to be the same as my father"s. I wish it would have been in better shape though. The colour case hardening seems to have worn off and the gun opened a couple of times.

I was also wondering if your gun came with a box? We have plenty of boxes at home but the guns have all gone. Could never figure out which one was which. Been thinking of restoring a nice canvas covered box for our gun. Would appreciate if you have any leads on that.

BTW, I noticed in the pics that the indicators were out. Best to get yourself a pair of snap caps and dry fire them to relieve the springs.

i have a box, i will try to post a picture of it, it doesnt look very fancy, just a plain black box, with red lining inside.

ok now to air out my ignorance:

1. whats an indicator?
2. whats a snap cap?
3. where are the springs in this gun?
4. with answers to the above, i hope i can figure out what dry fire means.

[TwoRivers]

1. Indicator pins are the small pins behind the standing breech, either on top or side of the action, which protrude when the gun is cocked.
2. Snap cap. An "inert cartridge" without charge and a spring-loaded "primer" of a softer material that cushions the firing pin, allowing the gun to be dry fired without damage to the firing pins.
3. The springs are inside the action body. Don't try to find them!
4. Dry fire. Pulling the triggers on a cocked gun without a cartridge in the chamber.

[Vikram]

1. Indicator pins are the small pins behind the standing breech, either on top or side of the action, which protrude when the gun is cocked.

Photo from here

2. Snap cap. An "inert cartridge" without charge and a spring-loaded "primer" of a softer material that cushions the firing pin, allowing the gun to be dry fired without damage to the firing pins.



3. The springs are inside the action body. Don't try to find them!

[winnie_the_pooh]

Or in the absence of snap caps you can break down the shotgun and decock it by holding an object against the breech face and firing it.The correct way would be to have a striker block,else use a thick notebook preferably with cardboard binding or a block of soft wood(not hardwood).Dry firing will eventually lead to some grief down the road.

Leaving it cocked will eventually lead to loss of spring compression and miss fires due to light strikes on the primer.

[Grumpy]

A lot of guns won`t breakdown if they`re cocked Winnie but your point is well made. Dry firing without snap caps will break the strikers sooner or later ..... and leaving a gun cocked will do for the springs.

[Katana]

CK,

All these guys have said just about everything you have asked. If you still have any more doubts about the gun, please don't hesitate to ask.

The pin indicators are wonderful in this gun. One does have to look at them while out with it. Just a 'feel' of them with your finger tips tells you which barrel is ready to fire.

Waiting for the pics of the box now. Maybe that would give me an idea for what work I would need to do.