Indian Air Rifle/Air Gun Comparison - Series 1

[joywarrior]

What attracted me to this thread ws the fact that I have also been scouring local shops for Indian made air rifles. Let me post what I have seen - at least my personal impressions.........................

................Earlier I had seen the Precihole in the Masrhal shot shop. I think I will buy the Precihole Orion soon, but may also get an IHP in due course - unless I get the courage to strip open my SDB 50 and do some operations on its insides. After reading the "Gunsmithing" thread I am getting tempted to do that.
If you simply wanna have fun - get the DAW or an SDB or even a cheaper rifle and simply have fun. Air guns...... You can never get enough power. ..............The only thing that is in your control - accuracy, is something you may never get no matter how good your rifle is. Better to shoot lousy and blame the rifle. If you need to see good shooting, become a member of a local shooting club.

Thank you for the Well Crafted description ! I would add to this in the near future. by the way I achieved .78inch (10 rounds -10 m) to 1.09 inch (10 rounds -10 m) . Fired 210 rounds (in 3 tests in 2 days) for testing the grouping of 7 Mastershot / Magnum Magnashot / Pellets with my SDB Air Rifle, for accuracy and suitability with these rounds, as advised by many peers/experts in the forum and elsewhere. (Will be uploading my result target pics and may be even a video soon). Just sharing.

Wishes
Joywarrior.

[fantumfan2003]

AGN,

There are plinkers and there are competitive shooters. I find it appalling to see people carrying stupid concepts and ideas in their heads. Rather than accepting bad input on their part, they have their weapon and everything else to blame for their lack lustre shooting.

While competitive shooting is not for everyone, plinking also has its ladder of success so your last para is something that most people will never grasp. Definitely not these plinkers on shoestring budgets.

That's what me says.

M.

That FF2003 is the difference between entry level plinkers v/s serious competitive shooters.While the later make every shot count, the happy-go-lucky plinkers simply rejoice at the audio-visual feedback. They are satisfied with "lag gayi" rather than "Oh! a #9 - must make it #10.9 on the next". What matters though is the sheer joy that one gets out of air gun shooting.

I can relate my days gone by with what bennedose writes and he seems to be transforming himself into a target/ competitive shooter like us.

After "VS" showed me the light of making every shot count on the paper target, I seldom missed the black with the rifle on a pistol target and later also seldom the black on the AR target. It was no longer "OK I missed with this one - shall try with the next pellet" - but "Why did I miss?" followed by a host of questions. Anyway, though a bit OT, thought it was on track considering the train of thought. What say ?

regs
A.
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Totally Disagree
Who told you that ? That is absolutely Bull Sh!t

M.

Shooting is like Golf. The last good shot you played is always "your game". The 70% bad shots are wind, pull, swing, bad day, bad weather, someone sneeezed etc. In shooting "My shooting" is always the two that hit bullseye. The 7 that spread all over the target and the one that missed even that do not count. And the last, very last pellet that I saved to shoot that tin can proves my supreme accuracy as the can goes spinning away.

[joywarrior]

Totally Disagree
Who told you that ? That is absolutely Bull Sh!t

No one tells me things that I say. I say them myself. If you think it is bullshit that is your preogative to soak up any bullshit I may leave here for you to see.

I wonder if this forum software has an ignore feature? Looks like I can use it. Ah! It does

Good One !


Wishes and Regards!
joywarrior.

[fantumfan2003]

Downright mediocre, actually.

M.

Totally Disagree
Who told you that ? That is absolutely Bull Sh!t

No one tells me things that I say. I say them myself. If you think it is bullshit that is your preogative to soak up any bullshit I may leave here for you to see.

I wonder if this forum software has an ignore feature? Looks like I can use it. Ah! It does

Good One !


Wishes and Regards!
joywarrior.

[vivek16sep1969]

well said,,,
cheers

[bennedose]

Here is a chance for me to compare a 20 year old SDB 50 and a brand new IHP 35.

IHP35-SDB50.JPG

The rear sights on the IHP are better finished and move much more surely without play and paradoxical movement. Very crude on SDB.

IHP-SDB-rearsight.JPG

The foresight on the IHP is plastic -1 for that

IHP-SDB-foresight.JPG

As far as accuracy goes, my own aim is not the best on earth. However the 10 shot spread of the IHP was in a group that had an area 45% smaller than the spread with SDB

IHP-SDB-spread.JPG

Plinking fun and muzzle velocity. This is the top cover of an Amul cheese tin that had been plinked more than 20 times with the old SDB and only dented, never perforated. The hole at top left was made with the first shot of the IHP 35. The IHP seems to have a muzzle velocity comparable to a HW 35 I had when it was new.

IHP-hole.JPG

[brihacharan]

H i All,
> Please remember that in India the demand for ARs is more that its availability....
> Also don't rely on assembly line products - most mfrs use conventional lathes / drilling m/cs / sanders etc. hence ergonomy / aesthetics / finish etc will be below par.
> All Indian made ARs need tuning - BTW - all foreign made ARs too get tuned for that matter - for smoothness & accuracy.
> Now that local AR mfrs are facing competition better products are surfacing - Good for all AR enthusiasts
> Finally "Stick to the One Type / Brand & Weight of Pellets" that gives you the best Accuracy / Grouping.
> Enjoy Your Shooting
Briha

[bennedose]

A few months ago, I simply got bored of my old Weihrauch HW 35. I got rid of it, and based on assessments of members of IFG I bought an IHP 35 and acquired a Precihole Orion. All are of course 5.5 mm (0.22) which is my preferred calibre.

There are so many comparisons and descriptions of IHP 35 and Precihole Orion by far more knowledgeable members so let me spare readers of a repeat performance. For posterity I will of course post a photo of all 3 rifles together. The Weihrauch HW 35, while being a classic had some drawvacks that I did not like. It has an extra long barrel which I did not like. It was accurate allright, and powerful when it was new.

Here is a comparison of my 3 rifles using Chrono connect mobile lite

3rifle-power.JPG

Clearly the SDB 50 is showing its age - but it remains a good rifle.

The SDB 50 is accurate enough for me to hit a 5 cm target at 20 meters using Diana shot round head pellets

The IHP 35 is, as expected, accurate - in my hands the Mashall shot flat heads are the best here

The Orion is super accurate with GSmith pellets

Power and accuracy wise I find the Orion in no way inferior to the HW 35. It's loads lighter and easier to handle

Maybe I need to do a heart transplant on the SDB 50 though

[supershaji]

....! And then I shifted to the pistol... (sigh)

well? is the rest history (in the making at least!)?