Imported Dbbl SXS

[Himachal]

My Dear Friends.
I want to know the best Imported Dbbl With their Accquercy and highest firing Range.
GREENER DBBL. MANTON & CO, HOLLAND & HOLLAND ( want to know despercition of these guns, about their choke level, proof test etc.)

I know that the range are depends upon Shooter ability and load you use, but it also depends upon the barrel length, Choke level and temper of gun.suuggest me for above gun performance.


my father have a Greener GP( General Police) model Sbbl 1955 made This is the best gun. .But about its Dbbl.

[Vikram]

Sincerely, you answered your own question.

[vkpd]

Hi Himachal,
Own a DBBL 12 bore of MANTON & CO. Inherited frm my grand dad about a couple of yrs. back. Unfortunately have not been able to fire as the cartridges that were present with him which are now in my possession are of the banned LG make & also some that were ment for game hunting which was allowed in those days.
Had applied for permit for 25 rounds a year back which was only cleared last month. Will buy the same from Kolkata soon & post on the experience.
Otherwise, the DBBL is in immaculate condition & stood the test of time as it is probably more than 65 years old.
Best
Vkpd

[vkpd]

Hi Himachal,
Own a DBBL 12 bore of MANTON & CO. Inherited frm my grand dad about a couple of yrs. back. Unfortunately have not been able to fire.
Had applied for permit for 25 rounds a year back which was only cleared last month. Will buy the same from Kolkata soon & post on the experience.
Otherwise, the DBBL is in immaculate condition & stood the test of time as it is probably more than 65 years old.
Best
Vkpd

[herb]

Himachal, vkpd - Looks like you folks have some old beauties, post some pictures for everyone to enjoy.

Herb

[TwoRivers]

Himachal: Since you are asking about SxS doubles, I assume that you are talking about shotguns. The concepts of "accuracy" and "high range" do not apply to shotguns. With a shotgun, a.k.a. "scattergun" there can be no accuracy. Range depends on shot size and velocity, not the gun. Any barrel from about 20" on up will give you the same velocity with modern shells. Choke does not affect velocity, only pattern density. Any gun from the same era will have undergone the same proof.

So what do you really want to know?

[vkpd]

Herb-have a .32. webley too from that era. Am out of W. Bengal where my licence is valid & hence don't have the weapons on me. Will post pics on return. Have a pic of the 12 bore ammo though on my mobile. Will try to upload it.Some of them look good to fire but would rather preserve them as memoribilia

[sonuvecv]

Himachal: Since you are asking about SxS doubles, I assume that you are talking about shotguns. The concepts of "accuracy" and "high range" do not apply to shotguns. With a shotgun, a.k.a. "scattergun" there can be no accuracy. Range depends on shot size and velocity, not the gun. Any barrel from about 20" on up will give you the same velocity with modern shells. Choke does not affect velocity, only pattern density. Any gun from the same era will have undergone the same proof.

So what do you really want to know?

Good Morning fellow IFGians
Please forgive my poor knowledge if my question is not technically correct,but I have seen 12 bore cartidge with my maternal Grandfather with a single slug or shell with a single lead ball whose small portion can be seen and touched from outside,he is having greener on his liscence, and he used to call it Haathimaar kartoos(a commonly used word in our country side which means It can killed even elephant ),I have seen same single lead ball cartidge with my father 12 bore gun I tried to cut it open to enquire that are there more number of lead balls inside it but after few tries left the idea.As I don't know the exact procedure.
My query is if we fire the 12 bore shell containing single lead slug even then the the range willl be same whether either fired from 20 inches barrel shotgun or an 32 inches barrel shotgun while choke remain same?
Regards,
Digvijay Singh Tomar

[TwoRivers]

[quote
Please forgive my poor knowledge if my question is not technically correct,but I have seen 12 bore cartidge with my maternal Grandfather with a single slug or shell with a single lead ball whose small portion can be seen and touched from outside,he is having greener on his liscence, and he used to call it Haathimaar kartoos(a commonly used word in our country side which means It can killed even elephant ),I have seen same single lead ball cartidge with my father 12 bore gun I tried to cut it open to enquire that are there more number of lead balls inside it but after few tries left the idea.As I don't know the exact procedure.
My query is if we fire the 12 bore shell containing single lead slug even then the the range willl be same whether either fired from 20 inches barrel shotgun or an 32 inches barrel shotgun while choke remain same?
Regards,
Digvijay Singh Tomar

A single ball load used to be quite popular, but was replaced a good many years ago with shotgun slugs of various more
sophisticated designs. The usual recommendation was never to shoot the ball load in full-choked barrels. There would be very little difference in velocity and range between a 20" versus a 32" barrel. Accuracy was, and is, poor. No better than from a muzzle loading smooth bore musket. Ball loading for shotguns are still used were rifles are prohibited, and people load their own shotgun shells with black powder. If patched to fit the particular barrel, they can be reasonably accurate at fifty meters.

As far as I know, ball loads have been illegal in India for some time.

I am sure it could kill an elephant, if hitting in the right spot. But the elephant would probably have plenty of time to trample you into mush before he died. Ten-gauge and larger double SXS shotguns, loaded with hardened lead ball, were used by some noted British hunters for elephant in Ceylon (Sri Lanka) during black powder days.

[sonuvecv]

Thank You Two River Sir,But I have swwn single ball load available at Arm shop and one gentle man buying it,so my query is that does the impact,velocity,and range remain same even if fired from 10 inch barrel(hypotheticaly As less than 20 inch barrel shotgun is probhited) or a 32 inches long barrelled shotgun.
Regards,
Digvijay SinghTomar

[TwoRivers]

No, from a ten inch barrel, illegal in India, the velocity would be considerably lower.

[sonuvecv]

Thank you Sir