Tips on Pistol Shooting

[jitu sati]

thanks tir. seems to explain a lot of things but still tell me does one enter a match with a full cylinder or slightly less. what do suggest

[hvj1]

With all due respects, I would like to attempt the question of HVJ1 sir.

Rhythm will mean, the entire SOA coming as a sequence without being told or without me reminding myself what to do. Its like I stand infront of the shooting table or infront of the target, every action should happen automatically once I touch the pistol.It may be something like when we drive a car, we keep our eyes in front and the hands/legs do their duties without being told, the hand changes the gears, the feet operates clutch, brake and accelerator, at the right moment, at a right pace...

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[hvj1]

what if it takes a long time to fall into the rhythm? how many then?
someday the SOA falls into a pattern like a well oiled machine. someday it sputters like those old stoves

Jitu.
Yes, Sometimes, it takes a very short time to get into your rhythm, yet other times, it takes longer, the reasons are as follows;
1.Whether you had a good nights sleep prior to match.
2. What you had for dinner prior to match, if it is something heavy, the bod takes a little more time to get back into the shape required for you to feel 'sharp'.
3. Over exercise beforethe match.
4. Improper warm up.
5. Improper mental preperation.
6. Some incident which upsets you before the match, which plays on your mind.
My advice to you is to shoot as many sighters it takes to GET INTO THE RHYTHM, since you shoot fast, you can cater for the extra time taken for the sighters.
That is why I emphasis that you shoould keep your SOA as short as possible and practice shooting your match in practice sessions in the shortest possible time, yet comfortably.

[hvj1]

The music is on, it is my favourite note of music (my SOA), my mind/soul finds itself in unison with the tune, the feet start to tap naturally with the beat and the rhythmic dance begins... the world disappears... there is only me dancing to the tune of my music... and enjoying the purest form of pleasure...

This is how I understand rhythm.

[hvj1]

Jitu,Bodhijobs and Tir,
The reason for applauding your answer to my question on Rhythm is because you have hit upon the most important cues of rhythm,
1. 'Pace'
2. "the world dissappears'
3. Purest form of pleasure.

Off the above three, 'Pace' is the SINGULARLY MOST IMPORTANT CUE'. And it is this 'pace' that one should practice again and again.
Because it is this 'pace' which will lead you to the point, where 'your outer world dissappears' and ultimately lead you to the 'purest form of pleasure'.
Now tell me what do I mean by 'PACE'?

Getting deeper and deeper are'nt we?

[brihacharan]

Jitu,Bodhijobs and Tir,
The reason for applauding your answer to my question on Rhythm is because you have hit upon the most important cues of rhythm,
1. 'Pace'
2. "the world dissappears'
3. Purest form of pleasure.

Off the above three, 'Pace' is the SINGULARLY MOST IMPORTANT CUE'. And it is this 'pace' that one should practice again and again.
Because it is this 'pace' which will lead you to the point, where 'your outer world dissappears' and ultimately lead you to the 'purest form of pleasure'.
Now tell me what do I mean by 'PACE'?

Getting deeper and deeper are'nt we?

Hi Guys,
> I'll take this one
> In running, pace is usually defined as a ratio of the number of minutes it takes to cover a mile or kilometer. Pacing is often a critical aspect of endurance events. Some coaches advocate training at a combination of specific paces related to one's fitness in order to stimulate various physiological improvements.
> Extrapolating this 'rationale' - In AP shooting it would be the pace (timing) that occurs between each & every movement, beginning with....
1. Raising the arm upwards to level with the target
2. Sight aligning / holding steady
3. Commencing the pressure on the trigger
4. Keeping the rhythm of breathing (inhaling / exhaling)
5. Shooting & follow through
> All these movements to be accomplished in "One Smooth Cycle" without a PAUSE in between.
> I stand corrected / educated if I've erred.
Briha

[hvj1]

Brihaji,
Pranam, You are very verrrry close.

[brihacharan]

[quote="hvj1"]
Brihaji,
Pranam, You are very verrrry close.

Hvj1,
> Pranam & thank you for your words of appreciation...
> Do enlighten me on 'what's missing' - I stand educated.
Briha

[bodhijobs]

thank you, i will regard it as a good idea
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[jitu sati]

i guess 'pace' for me is the time taken for SOA counted in equally spaced breaths and actions which take place almost involuntarily and which need to be repeated identically again and again. when one calculates the time it is to be for the entire sequence which one should be able to repeat time and again with each action falling into the groove at the same movement in the cycle. most of the movements appear to happen out of muscle memory and the rhythm when achieved happens as if happening by itself and time too follows this pattern.
easier said than done. it is akin to love 'jab hota hai to ho jata hai, kar nahi sakte bas ho jata hai' the conditions favourable for this 'hona' are created by prac

[hvj1]

i guess 'pace' for me is the time taken for SOA - which need to be repeated identically again and again. when one calculates the time it is to be for the entire sequence which one should be able to repeat time and again with each action falling into the groove at the same movement in the cycle

Wah! Kya Baat hain?

[brihacharan]

i guess 'pace' for me is the time taken for SOA - which need to be repeated identically again and again. when one calculates the time it is to be for the entire sequence which one should be able to repeat time and again with each action falling into the groove at the same movement in the cycle

Wah! Kya Baat hain?

> Put another way - Pace can be defined as "One Smooth Cyclic Motion" from beginning to end wherein each activity from start to finish, seamlessly dovetails from one acivity to another without a pause.
> Its a continuum or synchronicity of thought & action (mental & physical) that proceeds uninterrupted from beginning to end.
> Its akin to the "Synchro Meshing" of gears in an automobile when driven in the automatic mode, that changes / adjusts according to the gradient or speed at which its driven.
> In AP shooting its a smooth, highly precise & coordinated movement between the mind & body.
> I've run out of gas.........
Briha

[airgun_novice]

"Pace" is lost when the mind control becomes "Lean" and starts to "Meander". Thus when other thoughts e.g. Sania Mirza, sneak in while shooting, then one becomes Leander Paes, err,

(Lean + Meander) * Mind = (Disturbed Pace) -> simple mathematics aphroditism - (or is it aphorism ?)

Sorry just returned after a 4-day workshop (7:30AM-7:30PM) in Pune conducted near Fergusson College and lodged up a couple of kilometers away in the same region of "Deccan", just off "Jangli Maharaj" road. Will take some time and a few cold showers to wear the effect off.

BTW, tirpassion, you are perfectly in tune with the new time-span starting January 1, 2013. Congratulations. I do at least 12 dry fires prior to starting the sighters which I do in 3s before starting record. I had reduced the sighters to almost < 10, but in new light of new things should I return to the old ste of shooting more sighter ?

[jitu sati]

yo agn. your thoughts do follow a dangerous pattern, must say. but in the NZ i realised that one does not require additional wayward thoughts when you are not in rhythm, your mind is too busy playing kushti with the unsteady arm and absorbing shocks of 6/7s. it is then one remembers God. especially i did. no time for sania mirza atleast
jokes apart i am planning to take as many sighters as i can till i get the "feeling" of falling into a rhythm. as it is, the great planners at GVM have given 3-4 Nov as training days and kept the comp from 8-11 for ap (as per the pgm). no way i am getting that much leave so will have to depend on the sighters for the prac as well.

[bodhijobs]

yo agn. your thoughts do follow a dangerous pattern, must say. but in the NZ i realised that one does not require additional wayward thoughts when you are not in rhythm, your mind is too busy playing kushti with the unsteady arm and absorbing shocks of 6/7s. it is then one remembers God. especially i did. no time for sania mirza atleast
jokes apart i am planning to take as many sighters as i can till i get the "feeling" of falling into a rhythm. as it is, the great planners at GVM have given 3-4 Nov as training days and kept the comp from 8-11 for ap (as per the pgm). no way i am getting that much leave so will have to depend on the sighters for the prac as well.

All the best for the GVM. Hope you do well.

Regards