Precihole sports Orion(.22),Pegasus(.177),Club .177

[fantumfan2003]

Yes it has a rail for attaching peep sights........

M.

can one attach peep sights to it?

[marthandan]

@tiwariarun... i do agree that the stock of the precihole looks bad, but not sure if your comparison to the Techforce hold water.
my understanding,
1. videos and second party opinions are no match to you personally handling an air rifle and getting a feel of it.
2. importing an air rifle is quite difficult, to say the least(there are many posts on it)
3. the 1100fps that you talk about could (i am not saying, it will) get you into trouble with the "babus" clearing it.

these are points in favour of the precihole rifles without even considering the capability of the rifles. i am in no position to comment on that. but what i feel is that the manufacturer has laid emphasis on the important parts (accuracy, ergonomics, consistency). the downside of such a pursuit would be the increase in costing (which you would be well aware of, since you are into manufacturing). as it is, the precihole rifles are a couple of thousand rupees pricier than its closest rival (IHP; gun gurus-correct me if i am wrong). i think that the manufacturer has tried to balance the cost and minimise production time by going for a synthetic stock.

most of us would tend to agree that we would prefer a bad looking rifle that shoots well in comparision to an awesome "wall hanger" that shoots like c**p. its easier to fabricate a good stock than make a bad rifle shoot well.

of course, the Precihole rifles would look gorgeous in a walnut or teak stock. maybe, Precihole could offer a handmade stock as an option at extra cost.

[tiwariarrun]

Dear marthandan,

I agree with some of your points.. but when you mention, "but what i feel is that the manufacturer has laid emphasis on the important parts (accuracy, ergonomics, consistency)."

You mentioned that on the basis of what? Have you tried it? How could you conclude that the manufacturer has put the emphasis on what? Just on the basis of some comments here in favour of Precihole rifle as it's better in performance as compared to IHP? According to me..any damn rifle is better than IHP.

I am a person for who accuracy / performance does matter a lot..but at the same time I love beautifully finished stuff. I love my good collection already. Yes, the cost does matter..but why wouldn't I go for a better option when I am getting a good performing gun with good power (getting a good fps rifle cleared from customs is not a big deal. 14 yr old rifle club members got Walther, LP 10 pistols which shoot at 1200 fps easily) - which is available to me at the same price?

I'll have my Tech Force soon..and I don't mind challenging SX100 users.

Cheers,
AT.

[pratik_mahale]

Dear tiwariarrun
I am not supporting the Precihole air rifle but at present condition it is the best available air rifle in India & comparable to imported one
I also agree with some of your points & love to have Tech Force TF89 Contender Series along with my pigeses-SX100 but to import it
1) I have to spend around 10 K to become rifle club member as I am staying in Mumbai but other parts of India it will cost more then 50k.
2) Tech Force rifle cost + Transport charges which will be double the cost of Tech Force

So total cost not less then 30 K Plus clearing the gun from customs

I will also love to challenge your Tech Force but challenging two different person with two different air rifle will not prove the capacity of the air rifle because I have read this thing some ware its only 30 % the gun & 70 % the shooter capacity.
So you are welcome for the challenge but my suggestion is try SX100 along with your Tech Force for the comparison & let us know the result
Best of luck for your Tech Force

[mundaire]

Somewhat OT, but how exactly is Precihole pronounced? Is it pri-'sī-'hō-'lā or pri-'sī-'hōl

More to the point, I'd really like to know where all metal has been substituted with plastic/ polymer? For e.g. are the sights 100% metal? Is the barrel detent polymer or metal? etc.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[tiwariarrun]

Dear pratik_mahale,

I think you need some more research, and work on re-calculation.

1. Tech Force 89 with 1100 fps with extremely beautiful wooden stock for USD99= 5500
2. Shipping (Fedex International priority) 4000

If you're a real gun enthusiast, I'll get you a club membership for less than 4000/year..

Some more research on this forum, and you'll know how smoothly it gets cleared from Delhi customs..

And, after some more research, you'll know how would you get your gun cleared from Delhi customs, even if you live in Kanyakumari.

Why..why are we so poor at the research and analysis.. why do we have to take hasty decisions ..

[pratik_mahale]

I think this is going off topic but thanks for updating my knowledge
Two years back Arizona quoted me FEDEX Shipping $300 for one rifle including express freight & customs/fees
Dirt E. Harry quoted me $373.95 with shipping for .177 Gamo CFX
At that time Gamo CFX cost was $200

Just give us all the details once your Tech Force 89 delivered to you that will help lost of IFG member like me who wants to import the gun

[TenX]

For those wanting to import thru Pyramyd Air, please speak (Mail) to one Ms. Erika directly. There are two Erikas in PyramydAir and they are both very helpful.
I also suggest everyone to order a rifle case, ranging between 20 to 60 dollars, alongwith the rifle. Place special instructions for the rifle to be placed inside the case. That way, the courier does not go very high, the rifle is transported safely, and you have a good case for your rifle...
The courier also depends on the cost of the rifle, and not just the size or weight.
I have ordered and helped a whole lot of others order... and despite the cost of transit, I still feel they are very good value for money. Sometimes, they have huge discounts (The Gamo series has discounts of $50 - $100, as of now), which more than makes up for rupee-dollar or courier escalations

TenX

[airgun_novice]

The designer at work - assembling with own hands - Quality assured!

[tiwariarrun]

Somewhat OT, but how exactly is Precihole pronounced? Is it pri-'sī-'hō-'lā or pri-'sī-'hōl

More to the point, I'd really like to know where all metal has been substituted with plastic/ polymer? For e.g. are the sights 100% metal? Is the barrel detent polymer or metal? etc.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Does someone care to answer Abhijeet?

[airgun_novice]

Somewhat OT, but how exactly is Precihole pronounced? Is it pri-'sī-'hō-'lā or pri-'sī-'hōl

More to the point, I'd really like to know where all metal has been substituted with plastic/ polymer? For e.g. are the sights 100% metal? Is the barrel detent polymer or metal? etc.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Precihole is derived from "Precision Hole" or rather what they are good at - drilling through metal in controlled and precise fashion. Stock, including butt plate and foresight are glass-embedded polymer, rest is metal - die cast.

[airgun_novice]

Somewhat OT, but how exactly is Precihole pronounced? Is it pri-'sī-'hō-'lā or pri-'sī-'hōl

More to the point, I'd really like to know where all metal has been substituted with plastic/ polymer? For e.g. are the sights 100% metal? Is the barrel detent polymer or metal? etc.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Does someone care to answer Abhijeet?

You are welcome to answer in details about the product - composition, ergonomics, etching, finish et al - after you lay your hands on one. Would be worthwhile reading a detailed critique from one based in manufacturing industry.

[tiwariarrun]

You are welcome to answer in details about the product - composition, ergonomics, etching, finish et al - after you lay your hands on one. Would be worthwhile reading a detailed critique from one based in manufacturing industry.

Sounds good..when where how? Manufacturer failed to answer. They are just routing me to the dealers, without letting me know who the dealers are. Don't know how more funnier it would get.

[airgun_novice]

Since it's a company dealing with end user public (common man) probably for the first time, I would not expect them to be consumer savvy so soon.

What I would do is write a basic process for the company to answer consumer query - "How do I get your AR ?" Pat comes the answer seeking location/ address details of the user and also the choice of dealer location. Once that contact et al information is furbished, comes answer to the prospective user with a CC to all the applicable dealers.

Now it's up to the user and the dealers concerned to battle out on delivery schedule and cost to customer (vis-a-vis MRP). Any more suggestions ? Let it all be consolidated so that people concerned can take a look and adopt the process.

After all, surely the company will accept constructive criticism and suggestions since it's in the company's interest to be more EU friendly. Has anyone tried such a positive approach with the company ... yet ?

[tiwariarrun]

A 25 yr old company facing "common man" for the first time?

http://www.precihole.com/precihole_team.html

Shall I conduct "Employee/End-user Communication Workshop in the 26th year? The first 5 seats for FREE!