Soviet Nagant, Tokarev TT33, & Mosin Nagant Videos

[timmy]

Here are a couple of very interesting videos from the old Soviet Union, in Russian with English subtitles.

This first one covers the M1895 Nagant Revolver and the Tokarev TT33 Semiauto pistol:

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This one covers the M91 and subsequent versions of the Mosin Nagant Rifle:

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There are also links to other interesting topics, as well, such as the PPsH submachine gun.

[Priyan]

Reminds me of Ivan Danco's pistol (A bubba'd Desert Eagle) in the move Red Heat.
Kinda off topic but how common 7.62×38mmR in USA?
Interesting fact about the Nagant revolvers, they are the only revolvers which form a seal between barrel and the cylinder, so can be silenced effectively. I guess a 9mm suppressor would work on them.

Speaking of PPsH SMG, does anyone in USA make civilian legal version of it? I guess it'll have to be modified to fire from closed-bolt since newly manufactured open-bolt (Silly ATF!) firearms are illegal now. Also semi-auto

[timmy]

These are somewhat available:

http://militarygunsupply.com/index.php? ... cts_id=133

When Military Gun Supply first brought these out, there were some complaints about functioning, but I do not recall exactly what these complaints were. I presume that the latest versions will have made efforts to address these issues.

[Vikram]

Exceedingly interesting videos, Tim.

All this time, I have been trying to know the name of that soldier with TT.I even saw his photo at the Imperial War Museum in London. Now,thanks to you, I finally get to know his identity! Commander Yeremenko.

All those children making revolvers in the factories!Different times.

Coincidentally, I have been reading about Beria and his NKVD.

Thank you for sharing.

Best-
Vikram

[timmy]

Yes, Vikram, that picture is so famous, isn't it? Almost anything having to do with WW2, especially where the Soviet Union is mentioned, will have that picture.

My understanding is that, like the Soviet emphasis on sniper forces, battlefield photography was also an emphasized activity for propaganda purposes. So, it is very common to see film footage and photos of real, actual battles in progress taken by Soviet photographers and film makers. Such real, live scenes from the US and British sides are not very common at all, as posed, training, and behind the lines forces were generally recorded for propaganda.

That Beria was a real piece of work, was he not? It seems that just about all of the old Stalinist bolsheviks were ready to take him down, and he was one of the few that Khrushchev had executed -- quite a twist in politburo politics after decades of Stalin's murderous reign.

[Sakobav]

On Beria - I read Stalins autobiography ( nice book but man did this paranoid execute every one near and dear to him). Khrushchev and others narrate Beria's odd sycophant behavior when Stalin was on death bed - he would alternate in praising him when Stalin condition seemed to improve and then start berating him when things looked bleak. Marshal Zhukov did him in - one of the few chaps who was indispensable hero of Japanese brief war in serbia. When summoned by Stalin told his wife 505 chance either he will be a hero or be executed.

[timmy]

Khrushchev Remembers paints a very hypocritical and toadying picture of Beria, no doubt. Even while remembering that Beria was Khrushchev's mortal enemy in the power struggle of that time, it is difficult to pass over Khrushchev's words regarding Beria drugging little girls and molesting them.

Supposedly Stalin was going to start another purge when he died, and NKVD/KGB leaders did not have a lot of job security under Stalin and his purges. Who knows who Stalin would have targeted, but I'm sure Beria had just as much to fear as Khrushchev, had Stalin lived, and I am thinking that Beria was probably closer to knowing Stalin's plans at the time.

[rabepobemababe]

Soviet Nagant & Tokarev TT33 in action:



I'd like to warn you to keep your posts on topic. The link you have provided is more of a historical and political nature, as opposed to the topic of Russian/Soviet guns being discussed. As a person of Polish heritage, I am very very well acquainted with these incidents (there were actually three camps) and I'm able to discuss it in great detail, but it is not appropriate to do so in this thread. Please keep this in mind in your future postings -- moderator

[rabepobemababe]

May I draw the attention of the moderator that all the posts, including the videos at the beginning, have been part historical? I posted the link to the Youtube video since a reference to Beria was made by the previous posters while discussing Soviet arms. It is not my concern as to which heritage you belong to, or whether you can or cannot discuss these incidents in detail.

[Vassili Zaitsev]

This is one gun which is so near to my heart..I loved this weapon after I saw the movie " Enemies at the gate" and the hero "Vassili Zaitsev” and his Legendary Mosin Nagant.

Enjoyed the videos completely and thanks for posting.

[Skyman]

It's " Enemy at the Gates" and it is a beautiful movie, the battle scenes show the desperation of the red army very well.I was moved, especially when that small boy was hung by the German Sniper for helping Vassili.

A recommendation is " Der Undertung " or Downfall in english.The story of the last days of War told from the German side, where Hitler and SS brass hid in bunkers and waited for the end.The scene where Gobbels wife poisons all their children really turned me inside out.