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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by TC » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:47 pm

Great collection Moin... just once advice...

STOP BUYING KNIVES RIGHT NOW OR ELSE YOU WONT HAVE MUCH HAIR LEFT ON YOUR BODY

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Moin. » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:03 pm

jayanta mukherjee wrote:Nice blade you got there Moin. One of my favourite blades also but won't buy this one this year. Have made quite a number of purchases lately and will reserve it till next year.
BTW forgot to say an interesting review there.
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Thank you Jayanta, if you collect, get the Ti version, though it's much much more expensive. If this will be a user and one of purchase for EDC I would suggest get a Benchmade.

Hope you enjoyed reading the review.

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Moin. » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:04 pm

TC wrote:Great collection Moin... just once advice...

STOP BUYING KNIVES RIGHT NOW OR ELSE YOU WONT HAVE MUCH HAIR LEFT ON YOUR BODY

ROTFL

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Thanks TC :mrgreen: :mrgreen: " HAIR TODAY-GONE TOMORROW" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by jayanta mukherjee » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:16 am

Thanks TC :mrgreen: :mrgreen: " HAIR TODAY-GONE TOMORROW" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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But always in heart. but why do you prefer the BM for EDC over the Spydie? Any particular reasons?????
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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Rajat » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:58 pm

You are getting better and better with the reviews Moin :D

Overall it was a nice review which brought forward all the relevant observations and concerns.

Somehow I have never been crazy about these Spyderco knives. Spyderco does make some good knives and a lot of people like them. I personally like their sharpening systems but the same cannot be said about their knives except for a couple.

Do like Benchmade over many others not to mention a few other brands.

Secondly although folders are much more convenient to carry, I am somehow more inclined towards fixed blades. Although it is almost impossible to carry the fixed blades in city limits and I do not, do need to. But folders are simply something which a person cannot do without and are so convenient.

There is only one way out of this dilemma: get both. :D

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Moin. » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:57 pm

jayanta mukherjee wrote:Thanks TC :mrgreen: :mrgreen: " HAIR TODAY-GONE TOMORROW" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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But always in heart. but why do you prefer the BM for EDC over the Spydie? Any particular reasons?????
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When I compare the two similar prized knifes, specs wise, finishing wise, tolerances, """""" AXXXXXXXIIIIISSSSSS LOCK"( pls do read about the benefits of Axis lock in the link i provided) the BM beats Spyderco by a very large margin. Again I have handled only a few and peoples opinions may differ. Atleast two people whose opinion I highly value Rajat and Amar should tell you the same thing.

(BM Griptilian vs Spyderco Militray-OWN Both, HandsDown BM is better-price very similar teh Spyderco's blade larger by half an inch or so !!)
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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Moin. » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:07 pm

Rajat wrote:You are getting better and better with the reviews Moin :D

Overall it was a nice review which brought forward all the relevant observations and concerns.

Somehow I have never been crazy about these Spyderco knives. Spyderco does make some good knives and a lot of people like them. I personally like their sharpening systems but the same cannot be said about their knives except for a couple.

Do like Benchmade over many others not to mention a few other brands.

Secondly although folders are much more convenient to carry, I am somehow more inclined towards fixed blades. Although it is almost impossible to carry the fixed blades in city limits and I do not, do need to. But folders are simply something which a person cannot do without and are so convenient.

There is only one way out of this dilemma: get both. :D
Thank you Chief, coming from you will take it as a compliment :D You are yet to post the pics of teh blades you have hoarded apart from teh Zt and the BK :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

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Moin. wrote: You are yet to post the pics of teh blades you have hoarded apart from teh Zt and the BK :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Oh !! I think you missed all the others. They are scattered all over the forum :wink:

Ok, here is in keeping with an old promise http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 20&t=15827

I hope you would not mind my posting this here but this might add to the current Benchmade vs Spyderco thing going on above (and well here are two more that you now know I own :D ).

These are two of my favourite Benchmades: The Presidio and the HK (14205 I think)

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Solid construction, Aluminum scales with a " two way shuttered" grip, Axis lock and build to last.

Now the HK (made by Benchmade for Heckler and Koch):

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Again the same construction, solid steel liners under the G-10 scales, strong clip etc etc.

Excellent designs and on most of them.

These are typical characteristics of Benchmade blue and black class folders.

I am of the same opinion as you Moin regarding Benchmade.

But having said this both Benchmade and Spyderco are top notch knife makers and have dozens of models which are very different from each other and so every person would find something to suit his taste with either company.

So in the end it is a matter of personal preference.

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Moin. » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:31 am

Rajat wrote:
Moin. wrote: You are yet to post the pics of teh blades you have hoarded apart from teh Zt and the BK :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Oh !! I think you missed all the others. They are scattered all over the forum :wink:

Ok, here is in keeping with an old promise http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 20&t=15827

I hope you would not mind my posting this here but this might add to the current Benchmade vs Spyderco thing going on above (and well here are two more that you now know I own :D ).

These are two of my favourite Benchmades: The Presidio and the HK (14205 I think)

Image

Image

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Solid construction, Aluminum scales with a " two way shuttered" grip, Axis lock and build to last.

Now the HK (made by Benchmade for Heckler and Koch):

Image

Image

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Again the same construction, solid steel liners under the G-10 scales, strong clip etc etc.

Excellent designs and on most of them.

These are typical characteristics of Benchmade blue and black class folders.

I am of the same opinion as you Moin regarding Benchmade.

But having said this both Benchmade and Spyderco are top notch knife makers and have dozens of models which are very different from each other and so every person would find something to suit his taste with either company.

So in the end it is a matter of personal preference.


Don't mind at all :mrgreen: :mrgreen: The more the merrier. Awesome awesome blades both :D :D , The HK has some wear on the clip, is this your EDC Blade, very nice belly and a very interesting grind on the HK.

I do remeber the promise, better late than never :mrgreen: :mrgreen: How about some nice pics of your Shrapnel, that's a very very hot chick you have :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I just love the Shrapnel and the Col.Moschin. But they seem way way over priced....

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Moin. » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:03 pm

choombak wrote:BTW, I disassembled and reassembled the benchmade grip for cleaning and lubing and it is the finest piece of engineering I'd say. I am impressed with the precision and tolerances of the components as well as the simplicity of the axis locking mechanism.
Hi Amar; What did you use for dismantling, I brought a cheapo Chinese Torx Screw Set for Rs 75 and tried dismantling the Spyderco Tenacious unsuccessfully :oops: What tool set did you use. Also are teh torx screws available in the market ?

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Rajat » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:28 pm

Moin. wrote: Don't mind at all :mrgreen: :mrgreen: The more the merrier.
Thanks buddy, like a true knife enthusiast. I appreciate it.
The HK has some wear on the clip, is this your EDC Blade, very nice belly and a very interesting grind on the HK.
This is not really my regular EDC, although I do carry this occasionally. Lets put it this way: if I carry a knife apart from my usual EDC the chances are that it is this knife. I really like it, the grind,the spear point and the thumb ramp. It is towards the larger side for folders, has a comfortable grip and a slim profile.

The EDC is another knife and you might be surprised which one :D

How about some nice pics of your Shrapnel, that's a very very hot chick you have :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I just love the Shrapnel and the Col.Moschin. But they seem way way over priced....
Its really very boring and tedious. The pictures and uploading etc. :) But I will try to do it sometime.

The Shrapnel is a strong and thick blade (but small) with a nice sheath with two way carry options. The quality is good and the blade quote thick. It is intended to be more of a backup self defense thing although a knife is a knife and you have multiple use options for it.

It also has a "modified" rat tail tang. But I would not really doubt its strength.

The Moschin is a great knife towards the larger size and with a more comfortable handle. These appear and ARE basically knives for the military or other groups who have to carry knives as a tool. And I do NOT think of many knives as "tactical" or "military" knives.

The sheaths for all Extremas are way above the ordinary and provide excellent carry options.

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by choombak » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:31 pm

Moin. wrote:
choombak wrote:BTW, I disassembled and reassembled the benchmade grip for cleaning and lubing and it is the finest piece of engineering I'd say. I am impressed with the precision and tolerances of the components as well as the simplicity of the axis locking mechanism.
Hi Amar; What did you use for dismantling, I brought a cheapo Chinese Torx Screw Set for Rs 75 and tried dismantling the Spyderco Tenacious unsuccessfully :oops: What tool set did you use. Also are teh torx screws available in the market ?

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Yes, torx screw sets are available in good and large h/w stores. Typically the h/w shop will show you cheap chinese stuff, which get damaged easily (especially if the knife screws are loc'tited). Show a willingness to get a quality one, and he'll start showing you good Indian stuff, which costs around 300-500 rs. (chinese is ~100 or so).

Most knives require T6, T9, T10 (mainly between T4 and T10), so ensure you have these when you get one.

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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Moin. » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:21 pm

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Moin. wrote: Don't mind at all :mrgreen: :mrgreen: The more the merrier.
Thanks buddy, like a true knife enthusiast. I appreciate it.
The HK has some wear on the clip, is this your EDC Blade, very nice belly and a very interesting grind on the HK.
This is not really my regular EDC, although I do carry this occasionally. Lets put it this way: if I carry a knife apart from my usual EDC the chances are that it is this knife. I really like it, the grind,the spear point and the thumb ramp. It is towards the larger side for folders, has a comfortable grip and a slim profile.

The EDC is another knife and you might be surprised which one :D

How about some nice pics of your Shrapnel, that's a very very hot chick you have :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I just love the Shrapnel and the Col.Moschin. But they seem way way over priced....
Its really very boring and tedious. The pictures and uploading etc. :) But I will try to do it sometime.

The Shrapnel is a strong and thick blade (but small) with a nice sheath with two way carry options. The quality is good and the blade quote thick. It is intended to be more of a backup self defense thing although a knife is a knife and you have multiple use options for it.

It also has a "modified" rat tail tang. But I would not really doubt its strength.

The Moschin is a great knife towards the larger size and with a more comfortable handle. These appear and ARE basically knives for the military or other groups who have to carry knives as a tool. And I do NOT think of many knives as "tactical" or "military" knives.

The sheaths for all Extremas are way above the ordinary and provide excellent carry options.

Let me guess, :mrgreen: I am dead sure you EDC a SAK, I know most serious blade enthusiats do !!! I know you have the Shrapnel but I am sure you are sane enough not to EDC "The Shrapnel" :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I am surprised that the Sharpnel has a Rat Tail Tang, but so does the legendary Kabar and the Kabar has proved it's mettle for decades.
If I ever have money to burn :mrgreen: The Shrapnel, the Col. Mosc and The CR Yarborough would be on top of teh shopping list... :mrgreen: I know you had posted a pic of the Shrapnel few months back and teh coating had worn off. How resilinet is the coating on these to wear and tear. Also ER use some uheard of steel for their knives, would you happen to know what the composition of this steel is, what if teh rockwell ratings and how good is the edge retenetion. I had read a thread some time back on the ER Khukri breaking on using it to chop wood in the wilderness etc....
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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

Post by Moin. » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:25 pm

choombak wrote:
Moin. wrote:
choombak wrote:BTW, I disassembled and reassembled the benchmade grip for cleaning and lubing and it is the finest piece of engineering I'd say. I am impressed with the precision and tolerances of the components as well as the simplicity of the axis locking mechanism.
Hi Amar; What did you use for dismantling, I brought a cheapo Chinese Torx Screw Set for Rs 75 and tried dismantling the Spyderco Tenacious unsuccessfully :oops: What tool set did you use. Also are teh torx screws available in the market ?

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Yes, torx screw sets are available in good and large h/w stores. Typically the h/w shop will show you cheap chinese stuff, which get damaged easily (especially if the knife screws are loc'tited). Show a willingness to get a quality one, and he'll start showing you good Indian stuff, which costs around 300-500 rs. (chinese is ~100 or so).

Most knives require T6, T9, T10 (mainly between T4 and T10), so ensure you have these when you get one.

Thanks Amar, I'll try and source some thing. The Chinese ones are crap, I hope I did'nt damage teh screw on the Tennie. My bigegst fear othersie was what if i'm not able to put the knife back together again :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I've done some stupid things before and I hate to mess up the Tennie...I am trying to get the Spy, Tenacious Blade to a mirror finish. Been rubbing the damn blade with 1200 grit and 2000 grit polish paper since the last two days.also wanted to polsih the brass washers to see if the blade deploymen t becomes smoother....
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Re: Some new knives in my collection (pic heavy)

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Moin. wrote: Let me guess, :mrgreen: I am dead sure you EDC a SAK, I know most serious blade enthusiats do !!! I know you have the Shrapnel but I am sure you are sane enough not to EDC "The Shrapnel" :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
No I do not EDC the Shrapnel or even any large folder and you are right it is a small (SMALL) Victorinox. :)
I am surprised that the Sharpnel has a Rat Tail Tang, but so does the legendary Kabar and the Kabar has proved it's mettle for decades.
See the picture (borrowed):

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The blade is not rat tail in the true sense. The above picture explains everything about the tang.

I know you had posted a pic of the Shrapnel few months back and teh coating had worn off. How resilinet is the coating on these to wear and tear.
It is not really bad but yes it does wear out and will wear out completely it it sees a lot of use. The purpose of the coating on the extremas is not rust prevention unlike the beckers and esee who use the 1095 steel which is not stainless. The Steel that Extrema uses is stainless. The purpose of the coating is to make the blade non reflective and to camouflage it.
Also ER use some uheard of steel for their knives, would you happen to know what the composition of this steel is, what if teh rockwell ratings and how good is the edge retenetion. I had read a thread some time back on the ER Khukri breaking on using it to chop wood in the wilderness etc....
No, the steel is not unheard of in fact it is the well known N690 Bohler Austrian steel which many other manufacturers use. See details: http://faq.customtacticals.com/steels/s ... s_n690.php

The Rockwell hardness of this blade is 58 which is more or less what others manufacturers use on such knives. OUt of the box sharpness was not very good but edge retention is OK for a stainless steel of this category.
I had read a thread some time back on the ER Khukri breaking on using it to chop wood in the wilderness etc....
Yes, I had read it too but at the same time I have seen axe handles breaking off and read about broken Beckers and Esee knives and machetes etc. Only way is to test it first before going out in the wilderness. :D :wink: Secondly for chopping wood axes are much better.

This might have happened but much depends on how you were using these and then what are warranties for. Although the possibilities of filing a warranty claim from India are hard to think of.

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