Ashani Bullets non-availability in Delhi

[sainikji]

Hello to all,


Based on the information provided by the esteemed members on this site, Pistol was purchased from IOF Muradnagar in April, 2012 and also applied for addition of:
1. Pistol/Revolver
2. Shotgun/Rifle

Today the following additions are made in the License:-
1.Pistol/Revolver
2. Gun/Rifle

Now there are further queries which I am not hoping but certain to get satisfied, considering the in-depth knowledge of esteemed members. They are:

1. Anything to worry about regarding the non-mentioning of word "SHOT" in the addition and allowing only "GUN/RIFLE' instead of "SHOT GUN/RIFLE".?

2. As Pistol has already been purchased, no doubt will purchase a Revolver now.

3. WILL GO FOR AN IOF PRODUCT ONLY whether Pump Action Shotgun OR Rifle.

3. Is IOF PUMP-ACTION SHOTGUN available from IOF? if yes, from which factory as IOF site mention the same as available for civilians from Jabalpur factory BUT on enquiry from Jabalpur factory, the Marketing division person has stated the same as not available for Civilians.

4. If not Pump-action Shotgun, whether I should go for .22 or 30-06? I have gone through the relevant forum topics on this BUT STILL is undecided regarding which to chose.

5. Whether in case of any of the rifle, should I book directly with IOF Factory and if yes, whether can be booked from Muradnagar, Kanpur or Chandigarh? Muradnagar Factory Marketing division on enquiry stated that it can be booked from Ishapore only. Is it true?

6. If rifle is to be purchased from Dealer, any trusted and reliable dealer in Delhi

7. If rifle is to be purchased from Dealer, do I have to pay the MRP as set by IOF or any extra amount is to be paid?

8. What are the precautions to be taken to make sure about the right product of rifle, if to be purchased from Dealer.

Though I know that the questionaire is quite long but it is intentional to make an informed decision.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.--
PISTOL has been purchased but in Delhi Bullets are not available, hence yet to try out the Pistol.

[sa_ali]

I will give it a shot
1. Anything to worry about regarding the non-mentioning of word "SHOT" in the addition and allowing only "GUN/RIFLE' instead of "SHOT GUN/RIFLE".?

Rifle is mentioned separate and Shotgun separate, you cannot purchase a rifle on Shotgun endorsement

4. If not Pump-action Shotgun, whether I should go for .22 or 30-06? I have gone through the relevant forum topics on this BUT STILL is undecided regarding which to chose.

First pump action/Rifle, both serve different purpose, first one is short distance weapon, other is long distance. So what is your need here, or is it just a gun

Second part, .22 or 30-06, again what is your need, .22 is more for relative short distance compared to 30-06, less lethal, but excellent for fun plinking at the range and target practise.
if you have farming trouble of Blue bull and want to cull it with legal permission /Govt Notification, then 30-06 is a better option. Taking down a Blue Bull with .22 will not be a good idea.

5. Whether in case of any of the rifle, should I book directly with IOF Factory and if yes, whether can be booked from Muradnagar, Kanpur or Chandigarh? Muradnagar Factory Marketing division on enquiry stated that it can be booked from Ishapore only. Is it true?
No idea on this
6. If rifle is to be purchased from Dealer, any trusted and reliable dealer in Delhi
Trusted for one might not be trusted for other, but there are lot of feed backs available for lot of dealers in delhi, which you can read and decide for your self
7. If rifle is to be purchased from Dealer, do I have to pay the MRP as set by IOF or any extra amount is to be paid?
There is usually a premium on each gun, depends on the demand and supply, usually there a premium of 20-25K min for the factory price that has to be shelled out, again depends also on your bargain skills

8. What are the precautions to be taken to make sure about the right product of rifle, if to be purchased from Dealer.
Please go through the rifle section and shotgun section, we have lot of threads listing the checklist to run through while buying a gun

[sainikji]

Thanks sa_ali for the quick reply, however with all due respect, I must say that my queries are far from satisfied viz:
1. GUN/RIFLE has been mentioned. So as per my understanding, i am entitled to purchase either Shotgun or Rifle as per my choice. Correct me if i am wrong.

7. If rifle is to be purchased from dealer by way of booking made with IOF through a delhi dealer on my behalf, still have to pay premium?

[Vineet]

1. Anything to worry about regarding the non-mentioning of word "SHOT" in the addition and allowing only "GUN/RIFLE' instead of "SHOT GUN/RIFLE".?

Nothing to worry in it. If the permission is given to buy a "Gun " it means a shotgun.
http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 784#p78784

[sainikji]

Thanks Vineet,

Query No. 1 solved to the satisfaction.

[perfectionist1]

5. Whether in case of any of the rifle, should I book directly with IOF Factory and if yes, whether can be booked from Muradnagar, Kanpur or Chandigarh? Muradnagar Factory Marketing division on enquiry stated that it can be booked from Ishapore only. Is it true?
No idea on this


I understand IOF does not sell civilian rifles directly, it has to be purchased from a dealer.

[perfectionist1]

7. If rifle is to be purchased from dealer by way of booking made with IOF through a delhi dealer on my behalf, still have to pay premium?


Yes, how will dealer earn his livelihood.

[sainikji]

1. Today enquired from Ishapore Factory Marketing Division.. It was informed by them that only .22 Rifle can be directly booked by civilians BUT 30-06 Rifle cannot be. 30-06 rifle has to be purchased from a dealer only.
IS IT CORRECT?

2. The Ishapore Marketing Division told the price of 30-06 inclusive of taxes as Rs. 72,000/- WHEREAS Delhi dealers are quoting the same as Rs. 1,00,000/-.. A Huge margin of Rs. 28,000/-. ITS A DAYLIGHT ROBBERY ON THE PART OF DEALERS.

[goodboy_mentor]

When there is no competition and demand supply gap is there, everyone involved tries to do daylight robberies. IOF is also doing daylight robbery. Check the prevailing prices of firearms in the international market and compare with prices of IOF. Did you pay fair price for your pistol to IOF when similar pistols are being sold at fraction of price in international market?

If you want to get to the bottom of the matter then do an RTI with IOF about rule by which they are selling some firearms directly and some only through dealers. Also about IOF pump action why they are not selling it to arms license holders.

[sainikji]

Dear GBM,

Though RTI route will bring into light the rules being followed by IOF in adopting different standards for .22 and 30-06 rifle sale, What I am concerned about the fact is the overpriced margin in the sale price of new 30-06 by delhi dealers WHEN as per my understanding there is no demand supply gap qua this rifle.

[goodboy_mentor]

Sir what is your opinion about how to tackle this menace?

[sainikji]

Dear GBM,
you have to take the bull by horns. As far as I am concerned, naturally i will take the route of Consumer Protection Act as no dealer can charge more than the MRP set by the IOF.

[Vineet]

2. The Ishapore Marketing Division told the price of 30-06 inclusive of taxes as Rs. 72,000/-

Thanks for the information.

1. Today enquired from Ishapore Factory Marketing Division.. It was informed by them that only .22 Rifle can be directly booked by civilians

What is the price of .22 Rifle at Ishapore Factory.

Delhi dealers are quoting the same as Rs. 1,00,000/-.. A Huge margin of Rs. 28,000/-. ITS A DAYLIGHT ROBBERY ON THE PART OF DEALERS.

Few months back, in Punjab and Haryana the price of IOF .30-06 rifle was around 85,000/-, though the latest price needs to be confirmed.

[sainikji]

Dear Vineet,

Did not inquire about the .22 rifle as has chosen 30-06 for myself and hence inquired for it only.

[perfectionist1]

@sainikji,

Highly recommended to gather first hand information from the dealers in Delhi (old Delhi side), since you are about to make a purchase.

Looking forward to hear about your purchase experience.

Cheers.....