Import of Cartridges of 32 Winchester special

[sonuvecv]

hi sonuvecv i also have the same problem i recently baught 32-40 rifle by winchester no one manufactures artridges for this rifle this is called a dump bore.there is term in arms act to convert i am working on this.is there any gunsmith who has got the liecence to convert to another bore.as your gun is og .32 caliber you can use 8mm bullets but there are many other factors in conversion of chamber as case lenths are diffrent as soon i will know any solution ill let you know thanks

Dear Ashok howmuch u have spent forthat rifle?

-- Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:04 am --

Digvijay:

er:



-- Sun Sep 11, 2011 14:15 --

re:

...your gun is og .32 caliber you can use 8mm bullets but there are many other factors in conversion of chamber as case lenths are diffrent as soon i will know any solution ill let you know thanks

Actually, 8mm (7.92mm) uses 0.323" diameter bullets, and this larger size could well cause higher pressures in a .32 Winchester Special bore. Since I would assume you are not proposing to handload, but adapt, there are some obsolete handgun cartridges that are 8mm, but that may not mean they are correct for a 0.321" bore. I doubt that there are many who have on-the -shelf merchandise that would adapt the .32 Winchester Special to some old handgun cartridge, either. Is the man proposing to machine some custom adapter for you?

-- Sun Sep 11, 2011 14:21 --




Plus, it also uses a 0.321 diameter bullet, making true 8mm bullets (those intended for such cartridges as 8x57) too large. These lever action guns are not going to be strong enough to tolerate very high pressures, and I'd be warning against any casual approaches to bullet selection. Also, pointed bullets are never to be loaded into tubular magazines, such as those used by the Model 94 Winchester and similar lever guns. The recoil of firing can cause the point of one bullet in the magazine to touch off the primer of the round ahead of it -- or maybe they will all go off! Independence Day celebrations will come early in that case!

Dear Timmy Sir thank you very much for giving such a detailed desctription hats .This forum is really wikepedia for ignorent gun owner of chambal(Gwalior,Morena, bhind) where owning a gun is a status simble.and where you can find Made in USA 30-06 owned by man who have only bycle as a veh
icle!

[TwoRivers]

Ashok: Unless the Indian government comes to its senses and adopts a saner attitude concerning import of components, import and export of firearms, etc., I can not see much of a future for these heirlooms chambered for odd, now rare calibers. Without an opportunity for hunting, and limited yearly cartridge allowance, there is obviously little incentive to manufacture or import these cartridges.
So it seems that you have but two choices. Hang them on the wall, hoping things will change. Or try to find an optimist who will buy them. In which case having a few cartridges to go with the gun will help.

[winnie_the_pooh]

Ashok: Unless the Indian government comes to its senses and adopts a saner attitude concerning import of components, import and export of firearms, etc., I can not see much of a future for these heirlooms chambered for odd, now rare calibers. Without an opportunity for hunting, and limited yearly cartridge allowance, there is obviously little incentive to manufacture or import these cartridges.
So it seems that you have but two choices. Hang them on the wall, hoping things will change. Or try to find an optimist who will buy them. In which case having a few cartridges to go with the gun will help.

Wiser words than these were never spoken

[sonuvecv]

Good Morning,Fellow IFG'ns
Is there any Bore whose cartidges are available in India and is of similar dimensions which can be used in my uncle's 32 Winchester Special.Veterns please help.I know that I would be rebuked by you because it it is not safe,but I am having no other option ,I tried SLR's and 30-06 ,315 but with no effect.Now I have .22HS cartidge which I know will fit in chamber but not sure that it could work with its lever mechanism.We don't want to sell it.Please advice,

[xl_target]

You're serious? You actually tried to fire a .308, a .30-06 or a .315 cartridge in there? I wouldn't not think that any of them would fit in the chamber. Please do not use an alternate cartridge in there.
You say you have no choice but actually you do. You can choose to stop that or you could choose to die when the gun blows up in your face.

[timmy]

Just let us know when you are going to shoot that thing, so we will have warning and can take cover!

[TwoRivers]

The only cartridge you could safely substitute, though it would not be accurate, would be the .30-30 Winchester, as these two cartridges only differ in bullet (and neck) diameter. It would work through the magazine, go "BANG" without hurting the gun or you; and even hit a barn door at short range.
Never use a cartridge with a pointed bullet in a tubular magazine.
Unless I am mistaken, Indian law does not allow you to purchsae cartridges other than those mentioned on your license.

[prashantsingh]

Remembered a joke.
A man went to a shop to pick up a roll of Toilet paper.
The shopkeeper didn't have it. He gave the man sand paper instead.
After all it's paper.

[timmy]

Prashant, it sounds like the fellow was only barely able to scrape by.

[dr.jayakumar]

as far as i know you cannot use any of the said catridges in your winchester,
you better be sure about what you are doing.or else you'll spoil your gun for sure.

[goodboy_mentor]

You may try the following options:
1. carefully reloading the .32 Winchester Special cartridges.
2. find some arms dealer who has these cartridges or is willing to import them.
3. visit abroad or some neighboring country where these cartridges are available and bring cartridges with you. Before doing this confirm the firearm laws, customs rules of the visiting country and custom rules of our country related to this matter.

Topic related to this matter appears to have already been discussed here http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=15306

[dev]

Just sell the rifle to someone who will look after it even if it doesn't go bang. Please, I cringe at the thought of what you are doing to that lovely rifle. Or go abroad and bring back the 50 cartridges that you are allowed to import.
You should actually be taken to task for what you are doing to the rifle and yourself, please don't be so desperate and think the problem through.

[TwoRivers]

The US and possibly Canada would be the only places were you'd be likely to find .32 Winchester Special ammo. And even there they'd most likely be a special order item, few stores would carry them in stock, as no rifles have been so chambered in many a year. Wish there were a way to help out, but there doesn't seem to be one.

[sonuvecv]

You're serious? You actually tried to fire a .308, a .30-06 or a .315 cartridge in there? I wouldn't not think that any of them would fit in the chamber. Please do not use an alternate cartridge in there.
You say you have no choice but actually you do. You can choose to stop that or you could choose to die when the gun blows up in your face.

No Sir I have not fired any cartridge I just tried to insert it into chamber but theit didnt work.

[Hammerhead]

That's a good collectable piece and it's not worth to destroy it in desperation. If you can find slr , -06 or other calibers you can shoot, hunt and defend with all , other than risking trying this rifle.

May be, there are few tips and tricks there but given the laws and regulations and excess to "Other Options" , it's not worth.

And thanks timmy , good guidance but we should all ask him to stop tweaking and producing another "youtuber"

Why don't we go back to our " Right to Bear Arms " , will solve most of this - Haji