30.06 vs .275 magnum

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30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by waulakh » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:40 pm

I have been offered a Holland and Holland .275 magnum OR a 30.06 by Savage USA in exchange for my .22 Hornet by Anschutz. The ammo for .275 is costing Rs 350/- each by Kynoch England.There are 150 rounds with the rifle,while the 30.06 round is for 70/- in the NRAI.The .275 ammo is lead tipped whereas the 30.06 ammo is hard nose.In Punjab the hunting permit for wild boar and blue bull is only issued for a 8mm or above rifle,not for 12 bores.Please suggest which is a better option.

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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by Vikram » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:54 pm

If the .275 you speak of is a .275 H&H magnum, save yourself a lot of grief and forget about it.Almost obsolete.

A .30/06 is any day practical over a proprietary cartridge like the .275H&H.

If 8mm is the minimum in Punjab for a legal permit to shoot wild boars, then the .30/06 is not eligible either.

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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by Vineet » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:01 pm

waulakh wrote:The ammo for .275 is costing Rs 350/- each by Kynoch England.There are 150 rounds with the rifle
These rounds will be very old and chances are that many of them may even misfire. To find fresh ammo in India would be almost impossible.
waulakh wrote:The .275 ammo is lead tipped whereas the 30.06 ammo is hard nose.
There are many different types of .30-06 ammo available in India including soft point, FMJ, plastic polycarbonate tip etc.
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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by Sakobav » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:54 pm

waulakh

That rule for 8mm seems crazy - practically .22 Hornet is a great caliber gun especially of your brand and its a known commodity to you. Rather keep this rifle and buy IOF 3006 and then fix it as per your needs .

Also per my knowledge from folks who live in that area are so desperate to get rid of these varmints but they dont have means for such rifles. I am still not convinced that there is explosion of wild life because poaching is rampant. I have seen damage these animals can cause first hand. My family has connection to such an area but what was galling was to see these rich folks purchasing land and then literally leveling hills khuds ravines to make swanky ranch type farms!! Chnaging the landscape sorry latter is all OT

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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by YogiBear » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:46 pm

Aloha,

Keep the Hornet.

Get the 30-06.

Preferably an American made rifle in good shape.

Check out the bore for wear where bullet leaves the case.

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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by xl_target » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:15 am

A Savage 30-06 is a pretty run of the mill rifle. While Savage has made great strides lately in rifle manufacture (see Baljit's .300WM), the older ones, while perfectly functional are a very utilitarian tool. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them but there is nothing special about them. They do make some really nice rifles now but the average Savage from the '70's and '80's was nothing special. The Savage Model 110 of which large numbers were produced are known to be reliable and accurate but above all they were cheap to purchase.
An Anschutz on the other hand has almost always been special. Hang on to it as it will be hard to replace. Today, a used Anschutz, even in .22 Hornet will easily bring $1000+ if it is in good shape. A new one can approach $2000.
I, personally, would not trade an Anschutz for a standard Savage bolt.
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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by TwoRivers » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:16 am

waulakh wrote:I have been offered a Holland and Holland .275 magnum OR a 30.06 by Savage USA in exchange for my .22 Hornet by Anschutz. The ammo for .275 is costing Rs 350/- each by Kynoch England.There are 150 rounds with the rifle,while the 30.06 round is for 70/- in the NRAI.The .275 ammo is lead tipped whereas the 30.06 ammo is hard nose.In Punjab the hunting permit for wild boar and blue bull is only issued for a 8mm or above rifle,not for 12 bores.Please suggest which is a better option.
You have been offered good advice. While I am sure that the H&H would be a beautiful rifle, whether built on a Mauser 98, or P14/M1917 action, the cartridge is totally obsolete. Any that you will find are going to be over fifty years old. Stored under Indion conditions, I would not trust them to fire reliably. Even if you lived where you can reload, it would not be a good choice, it uses a slightly larger bullet than other 7mm cartridges. Strictly a collector's rifle.
An Anschuetz .22 Hornet, on the other hand, is certainly worth keeping, and worth more than any Savage M110, or model 45. If you had that rifle here, I'd gladly trade it for any new standard .30-06 rifle of your choice. I know Indian conditions are different, but you would be trading down, Way down.

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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by The Doc » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:32 am

TwoRivers wrote:An Anschuetz .22 Hornet, on the other hand, is certainly worth keeping,If you had that rifle here, I'd gladly trade it for any new standard .30-06 rifle of your choice. I know Indian conditions are different, but you would be trading down, Way down.
waulakh,
The above quote says it all . Think why the dealer is pursuing the trade .......

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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by vishosingh » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:59 pm

the legal requirement for boar in punjab is 7mm and above
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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by waulakh » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:33 pm

Thank you all for your suggestions, am not selling the Hornet. I would rather buy a 30.06 than part with the Anschutz now.

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Re: 30.06 vs .275 magnum

Post by Vineet » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:36 pm

Waulakh: Which model is the the Savage .30-06 and what is its current market price in India.

xl_target: Whatever you have said regarding Savage .30-06 may be true in the US scenario but here in India the situation is totally different. Here hundred years old rifle sells for more than $ 6000.
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