Cow milk to remove rust?

This is the place for discussing gun care, custom work, repairs and ask related technical questions.
User avatar
Priyan
One of Us (Nirvana)
One of Us (Nirvana)
Posts: 416
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:49 pm
Location: Assam

Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by Priyan » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:32 pm

I was reading The Modern Gunsmith by James Virgil Howe published in 1941, found something interesting there. He wrote cow milk is a very good at removing rust from the bore. According to him the combination of fat and water in milk does the job nice and clean. I got interested and tried Googling but couldn't find any more information about that. Hope someone would shed some light on this topic.
When I'll get to shoot a gun?

For Advertising mail webmaster
rajveer
Almost at nirvana
Almost at nirvana
Posts: 123
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:48 pm
Location: india, mumbai

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by rajveer » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:40 pm

I think in 1941, the cow milk could be having that magical powers.
But in 2011, finding pure cow milk will be tough task.
Removing rust will be easier than findind pure cow milk.

Regards.

User avatar
Priyan
One of Us (Nirvana)
One of Us (Nirvana)
Posts: 416
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:49 pm
Location: Assam

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by Priyan » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:10 pm

rajveer wrote:I think in 1941, the cow milk could be having that magical powers.
But in 2011, finding pure cow milk will be tough task.
Removing rust will be easier than findind pure cow milk.

Regards.
Ah, that doesn't apply to me I guess, we have a small family-owned dairy farm. Maybe finding pure milk is hard for city folks but IMHO removing rust from the bore is harder as vigorous scrubbing might wear the rifling out.
When I'll get to shoot a gun?

User avatar
Vineet
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 1428
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:09 am
Location: Punjab

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by Vineet » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:16 pm

Priyan wrote:removing rust from the bore is harder as vigorous scrubbing might wear the rifling out.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a barrel of a firearm. If someone wants to try the cow milk to remove rust then they can do so on any metal that is rusted.
I think the main problem is the barrel that gets rusted also gets pitting in it. Now the rust can be removed by using a quality product (Zorrik 88 is one of them that is easily available in India) but what about the pitting.
It is something that can not be done away with.

rajveer
Almost at nirvana
Almost at nirvana
Posts: 123
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:48 pm
Location: india, mumbai

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by rajveer » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:38 pm

On a lighter note,

I think the author might have suggested, " Drink a lot of cow milk, before removing rust from the barrel.'
As we all know, removing rust from barrel is very laborious job and lots of energy is needed for it. :) :)
So the water in cow milk helps prevent dehydration and fat contain gives needed energy. :P

Regards.

prasanjit.baul
Almost at nirvana
Almost at nirvana
Posts: 154
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:16 pm
Location: Mumbai

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by prasanjit.baul » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:18 pm

Priyan wrote: Ah, that doesn't apply to me I guess, we have a small family-owned dairy farm.
Let me know your farm details. Will be glad to get arranged some PURE COW MILK from you for my self consumption... ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

rajveer
Almost at nirvana
Almost at nirvana
Posts: 123
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:48 pm
Location: india, mumbai

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by rajveer » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:41 pm

Since cow products are a topic of discussion here,
I read many years back, in some pamplet promoting cow product. Really sorry but can't remember the publisher.

It said if COW DUNG applied on regular basis on head of a peson, asking stupid questations. He might recover from it !!!!!
Also they said if the Dung is from his own dairy , result will be faster.

Regards.

User avatar
Priyan
One of Us (Nirvana)
One of Us (Nirvana)
Posts: 416
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:49 pm
Location: Assam

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by Priyan » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:47 am

Well, since this thread is going off topic, I'd say again, I'm seeking information about the capability of milk to remove rust. IDK if it's true or just a hoax.

rajveer,
Years ago I heard someone saying that there's no stupid question, sorry I can't remember who or when.

EDIT: I just remembered yesterday was my birthday while writing this post. lol I totally forgot about it.
I'm 18 now, NAGRI will soon receive my form :)
When I'll get to shoot a gun?

dr.jayakumar
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 1906
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:55 am
Location: tamilnadu,india

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by dr.jayakumar » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:13 am

never heard of this before.maybe it might work who knows.
should give a try before deciding otherwise.
regards

dr.jayakumar
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 1906
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:55 am
Location: tamilnadu,india

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by dr.jayakumar » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:30 am

Priyan wrote:Well, since this thread is going off topic, I'd say again, I'm seeking information about the capability of milk to remove rust. IDK if it's true or just a hoax.

rajveer,
Years ago I heard someone saying that there's no stupid question, sorry I can't remember who or when.

EDIT: I just remembered yesterday was my birthday while writing this post. lol I totally forgot about it.
I'm 18 now, NAGRI will soon receive my form :)
you are too matured to be just eighteen!!

skeetshot
Eminent IFG'an
Eminent IFG'an
Posts: 236
Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:55 pm
Location: Mongoli

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by skeetshot » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:22 pm

Time to call a spade a spade:

Rust never sleeps and rust attacks all things made of steel.

All responsible gun owners need to know about this deadly malady for reasons of safety and value. We cannot call ourselves gun lovers and allow our weapons to rot like this.

If someone believes cow milk or horse sh*t or elephant piss prevents rust, take some clean nails and put them in a sealed bottle containing their favorite "rust preventive" and check it out after a few days.

Then if it works, report it to us.

Speculation and idle talk have no place on protecting our guns.

User avatar
nagarifle
Old Timer
Old Timer
Posts: 3404
Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:43 pm
Location: The Land of the Nagas

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by nagarifle » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:51 pm

can the milk be used afterwards for making tea?
Nagarifle

if you say it can not be done, then you are right, for you, it can not be done.

User avatar
ckkalyan
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 1484
Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 10:37 pm
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Contact:

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by ckkalyan » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:09 pm

ROTFL skeetshot !

You were just in time - I was about to store the barrel of my favorite rifle inside my largest cow..... :oops: to prevent rusting of course...I'm trying to figure it out - was it to prevent rusting in the cow or the rifle barrel...??

Just kidding fellas - couldn't resist it! Just love the new fangled versions of old methods - forgive me please! :P
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns!

NK007
On the way to nirvana
On the way to nirvana
Posts: 69
Joined: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:53 pm

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by NK007 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:16 pm

hahaha. nice one there nagaji..

:cheers: for Tea..

regards

NK007

NK007
On the way to nirvana
On the way to nirvana
Posts: 69
Joined: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:53 pm

Re: Cow milk to remove rust?

Post by NK007 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:29 pm

SOME INFO ON MILK ON NET...

COMPARISON OF NUTRITIONAL CONTENT OF VARIOUS MILKS BY
David B. Fankhauser, Ph.D.
University of Cincinnati Clermont College
Batavia OH 45103

CONTENT OF SELECTED NUTRIENTS IN MILKS OF VARIOUS SPECIES
Content per 100 grams of whole milk (or whey)

g (=%) g (=%) g (=%) mg mg mg
Animal fat protein carbohydrate calcium phosphorous vitamin C
cow 3.5 3.5 4.9 118 93 1
goat 4.0 3.2 4.6 129 106 1
human 4.0 1.1 9.5 33 14 5
sheep 7.02
6.0
5.35
193
- -
2.46

water buffalo 6.89
3.77
5.16
117
- -
4.08

reindeer 19.6
10.8
4.10
254
- -
- -








whey, "sweet" liquid
0.36
0.85
5.14 (?)
47
46
0.1

I think the most interesting are:

Human milk has about 1/3rd as much protein as either cow or goat.
Human milk has twice the carbohydrate as either cow or goat
Human milk has 1/4th the phosphorous as either cow or goat
Human has five times the of vitamin C. This is not surprising, since of these three species, only human are unable to synthesize their own vitamin C, and thus must get it through the diet.

Regards
NK007

Post Reply