Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

[eljefe]

http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/am ... n/sc/1.htm

Thanks to Cottage Cheese for this.

[tanyatans]

hi all,
can i get an arm license for a revolver .455 which i have got from cod jabalpur....... as i understand it is a restricted bore .... but is it possible to get a license and please tell me the procedure also
thanks

[mundaire]

hi all,
can i get an arm license for a revolver .455 which i have got from cod jabalpur....... as i understand it is a restricted bore .... but is it possible to get a license and please tell me the procedure also
thanks

It is possible to get a PB license if you have inherited it OR you are a VIP/VVIP or kin of a VIP/VVIP

[Gunwise]

Is the .40 S&W PB or NPB?

Also, is there any way to buy an NPB pistol (and the ammo) online and have it delivered and registered via a third party? I'm asking because most online sites selling firearms (like http://www.budsgunshop.com, for example) give you much better quality guns for around 1/3rd the price you need to pay for a shitty little .32 ACP here.

[mundaire]

Is the .40 S&W PB or NPB?

Also, is there any way to buy an NPB pistol (and the ammo) online and have it delivered and registered via a third party? I'm asking because most online sites selling firearms (like <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.budsgunshop.com">http://www.budsgunshop.com</a><!-- m -->, for example) give you much better quality guns for around 1/3rd the price you need to pay for a shitty little .32 ACP here.

a) Please take the time to read the first page of this thread - http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2780 - PB calibres are clearly mentioned therein, all other calibres are NPB

b) Short answer - NO! For details please read http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2779

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[Gunwise]

a) Please take the time to read the first page of this thread - http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2780 - PB calibres are clearly mentioned therein, all other calibres are NPB

I did, actually; I didn't find the .40 S&W there, but I just wanted to confirm, since the .40 is bigger than the PB 9x19 Luger/Parabellum.

b) Short answer - NO! For details please read http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2779

Might have to consider getting a U.S job for a year just to get my hands on a good gun...

[cottage cheese]

I did, actually; I didn't find the .40 S&W there, but I just wanted to confirm, since the .40 is bigger than the PB 9x19 Luger/Parabellum.

Classification of PB is not based on size of the caliber...though for some odd reason many including a lot of babus have convinced themselves otherwise.

[Gunwise]

I always thought it was size-based, too (I'm no babu, though )

Thanks for clearing that up, anyway.

[goodboy_mentor]

I always thought it was size-based

PB/NPB has nothing to do with diameter of the bore or the ballistic properties. For detailed explanation may read http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... 43#p115943

[vsinghap]

Dear Sir,

I would like to know about 9m/m (.380) "LLAMA Short Pistol Made in Spana whether it is NBP or PB bore in India?
Please clarify.

with regard
V. Singh

[TwoRivers]

The .380 ACP, aka 9mm Kurz, aka 9mm Corto Is a NPB cartridge in India. Legal to be owned by (licensed) civilians.

[amit xrd]

dear sir
i want to know about the .30 bore status for handgun, carbine and rifle in india especially in punjab.hope get replies soon.

[sa_ali]

read the first page of this thread - http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2780 - PB calibres are clearly mentioned therein, all other calibres are NPB
Cheers!
Abhijeet

Please read the above mentioned thread, as stated by abhijeet, it defined NP and P bore in indian context only.

[Gfreeman]

Hi folks,

I did read the first PB list and I am led to believe the answer is yes. But this question is more out of disbelief that the babu's would allow this.

Can anyone confirm that 5.56mm NATO is not prohibited bore? My apologies for having to repeat yourself. It would be interesting and funny, if you can bring in .50cal too! I would do it just for the fun of watching what unfolds at the airport.

Maybe these are covered by "such other arms as the Central Government may, by notification in the Official Gazette, specify to be prohibited arms; "? If anyone knows where to find this Gazette, let me know.

Thank you

Pratap

[goodboy_mentor]

Gfreeman welcome to IFG.

I did read the first PB list and I am led to believe the answer is yes.

If I go by the available information on the internet, I am also led to believe the answer is yes. If we refer the MHA website at http://mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=538 it says "Prohibited Bores - Arms Rules, 1962 - Schedule I - categories I(b) and I(c)." Going by this if we read Arms Rules, 1962 - Schedule I - categories I(b) and I(c) we do not find 5.56mm NATO to be listed or anything that clearly says that any service ammunition is prohibited bore.

Arms Rules 1962 was created by powers delegated by Parliament to the Executive under Section 44(1) of Arms Act 1959 and has subsequently acquired force of law with approval of Parliament as mentioned in Section 44(2)(m) of Arms Act 1959. Has Parliament contrary to Section 44(2)(m) of Arms Act 1959(which says "Every rule made under this section...")delegated its power to Executive under Arms Act 1959 to make addition/ changes to prohibited bore list in Arms Rules, 1962 - Schedule I - categories I(b) and I(c) by notification in the Official Gazette? If yes then under which Section of Arms Act 1959 Parliament empowers the Executive with this?

It would be interesting and funny, if you can bring in .50cal too!

If it is not listed as prohibited bore and you have the import license OR you are willing to fight it in court.

Maybe these are covered by "such other arms as the Central Government may, by notification in the Official Gazette, specify to be prohibited arms; "?

Prohibited arms are different from prohibited bore arms. Central Government is empowered to specify prohibited arms as per Section 2(1)(i)(ii) of Arms Act 1959. Which is the Section of Arms Act 1959 that empowers the Central Government to to make addition to prohibited bore list in Arms Rules, 1962 - Schedule I - categories I(b) and I(c) by notification in the Official Gazette?

If anyone knows where to find this Gazette, let me know.

1) http://india.gov.in/documents.php
2) http://egazette.nic.in/
3) http://supremecourtcaselaw.com/Gazette_ ... ations.htm
4) http://gazetteofindia.org/
5) Do RTI with MHA. In the RTI do not ask if 5.56 mm NATO is prohibited bore or non prohibited bore. Ask is there any Notification issued in the Official Gazette related to prohibited bores list issued by MHA in addition to the prohibited bores listed in Arms Rules, 1962 - Schedule I - categories I(b) and I(c)? If yes please provide the copy of same.