Tips on Pistol Shooting
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
Hello Friends,
As our dear friend Dev has pointed out that I am probably up a tree with a camera, such is not the case, actually the past few days I have been literally climbing walls due to severe pain in the tooth, got it extracted, but the medicines were so strong, that my gastric lining has gone for a six. I have been advised strict bed rest and not to overtax myself. Could not resist my daily dose of IFG, saw all of you here. Give me a few days, i will get back shortly (but in great length).
Best Regards to All.
As our dear friend Dev has pointed out that I am probably up a tree with a camera, such is not the case, actually the past few days I have been literally climbing walls due to severe pain in the tooth, got it extracted, but the medicines were so strong, that my gastric lining has gone for a six. I have been advised strict bed rest and not to overtax myself. Could not resist my daily dose of IFG, saw all of you here. Give me a few days, i will get back shortly (but in great length).
Best Regards to All.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
Oh.... Ohh......I was wondering where you were....
Modern medicines......are truly double edged .....
Take rest and get well soon........
M.
Modern medicines......are truly double edged .....
Take rest and get well soon........
M.
hvj1 wrote:Hello Friends,
As our dear friend Dev has pointed out that I am probably up a tree with a camera, such is not the case, actually the past few days I have been literally climbing walls due to severe pain in the tooth, got it extracted, but the medicines were so strong, that my gastric lining has gone for a six. I have been advised strict bed rest and not to overtax myself. Could not resist my daily dose of IFG, saw all of you here. Give me a few days, i will get back shortly (but in great length).
Best Regards to All.
As an example of overcoming adversity, Karoly Takacs has few peers. He was part of Hungary’s world champion pistol-shooting team in 1938, when an army grenade exploded, crippling his right hand. Ten years later, having taught himself to shoot with his left, he won two gold medals in the rapid-fire class.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
Dear hvj1 guruji - Felt bad reading about your health. May be bananas and "beLphaLaachaa moramba" would hasten the healing process along with masoor dal 'waraN'. Anyway, get a good rest and hope to see you back in action. An update from me - I can now shoot AP consistently within the black area, thanks to your guidance and the Vedant-style interaction between you and Jitu Sati.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
hvj1 wrote:Hello Friends,
As our dear friend Dev has pointed out that I am probably up a tree with a camera, such is not the case, actually the past few days I have been literally climbing walls due to severe pain in the tooth, got it extracted, but the medicines were so strong, that my gastric lining has gone for a six. I have been advised strict bed rest and not to overtax myself. Could not resist my daily dose of IFG, saw all of you here. Give me a few days, i will get back shortly (but in great length).
Best Regards to All.
You have exactly one hour 45 minutes...
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
Point noted
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All right gentlemen,I am ready to field questions.
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Okay lemme ask a toughie...what is your strategy as far as timing goes when you have say shot a 60 shot qualification. The next round is the forty shot one like the GVM and after that it is a sixty shot one as in the nationals. Doesn't this mess up one's rhythm? Unless one makes it a habit to shoot both in one hour 15 minutes?
How would you play it?
Regards,
Dev
How would you play it?
Regards,
Dev
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
Hey Dev, am about ready to migrate to the LP 10 but have some questions specifically for you. How tough was it to migrate to the steyr?? Our association has a couple which I have used a couple of times but I find I am not accustomed to the smaller grips and also the lighter barrel weight. The grips that we have are medium sized an although my hands are small, I find the steyr grips are way too small compared to the Baikal.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
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Hi Jonah,jonahpach wrote:Hey Dev, am about ready to migrate to the LP 10 but have some questions specifically for you. How tough was it to migrate to the steyr?? Our association has a couple which I have used a couple of times but I find I am not accustomed to the smaller grips and also the lighter barrel weight. The grips that we have are medium sized an although my hands are small, I find the steyr grips are way too small compared to the Baikal.
you are right about the weight issue, as after the IZH 46M it seemed way too light.
If you are going for one, get the electronic trigger, this really helps in dry practice.
Though the grips are by Morini...they are not as good as the ones on a Morini. However, a little sanding etc and they will fit pretty good. Another thing the Steyr LP 10 from Europe comes set at a lower velocity...425 or so fps. This makes using anything else but 7 grain match pellets a pain. But 'Youtube' has two videos on adjusting the stabilizer of the LP 10 and adjusting the velocity. After that the P10's from Gsmith shoot pretty well. The LP 10 helped me to move up in points though I don't know if I practiced harder or was it the pistol. The only killer thing with the Baikal is that the trigger pressure varies in dry fire and when pumped with air. This can seriously,fungue your muscle memory training bit.
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Dev
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
hello, hvj1
Please give me ans. of following Q.
1. How to do Follow through?
2. Process of follow through?
3. From where to start and stop follow through in shot cy.
4. what is calling.
Please give all ans.. because i am confuse in this ,what is correct follow through?
regard,
Lucky
Please give me ans. of following Q.
1. How to do Follow through?
2. Process of follow through?
3. From where to start and stop follow through in shot cy.
4. what is calling.
Please give all ans.. because i am confuse in this ,what is correct follow through?
regard,
Lucky
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
Hello Lucky,
Have you read the previous lessons on the subjects you have mentioned?
-- Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:37 pm --
Excellent question, firstly it also tells me that you are making good progress from the way you are thinking.
There are several aspects to your question, regarding how to approach a 40 shot match and then tune into the next match which would be a 60 shot match. These are stamina (both mental & physical), intensity, timing and rhythm.
1. Timing:
I will address timing first. Assuming that, you take 10 minutes for sighters, you should then be in a position to complete approximately 35 shots within the next 50 minutes. You then have only 5-10 shots to go for the last 15 minutes (40 shot match).
From the above , you can infer that a series should take you roughly under 15 minutes. The same timing should be maintained for the 60 shot match. Obviously, in practice sessions, this timing MUST be adhered to.
2. Stamina (Physical & Mental)
It is always recommended to shoot (even in practice) a minimum of 90 shots, sticking to the above suggested timing. Off course, course corrections and thought inputs may extend this timing, but one should stick to the series timing as closely as possible. This way, physical stamina should not be a problem.
Regarding mental stamina, there are a few things one should keep in mind
(a) Brook no interruptions during your practice sessions, anything which breaks your thinking (related to your shooting, specifically shot cycle) should be avoided at all costs.
(b) To increase your mental intensity, break your series into 5 shot mini series. Then set yourself a goal of shooting two 10s, in each mini series. Do not relax if you shoot more than two, if you do, then you will find many 5 shot series going past you, without your shooting a single 10.
(c) Once you have achieved the ability to shoot all your 5 shot series two 10s per 5 shots, then you can up the ante gradually. Start by shooting at least two 5 shot series (out of 18- for 90 shots) with three 10s . And so on.
(d) The above is easier said than done because, you must analyze your errors after each training session and put into practice remedial measures for correcting the same in separate practice sessions devoted to ironing out errors.
3. Rhythm:
A shooter is said to be in rhythm, when he shoots strings of 10s, with consistent ease. This phenomenon, is observed intermittently, by most shooters, who train seriously ( 3hrs a day) for a year at least. The million dollar question is, How does one get into it?
To attain rhythm, a shooter has to work hard on attaining a fair degree of mastery and control, on all elements of the shot cycle. And he must stick to his timing (discussed above) at all times.
Regards
Have you read the previous lessons on the subjects you have mentioned?
-- Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:37 pm --
Hi dev,dev wrote:Okay lemme ask a toughie...what is your strategy as far as timing goes when you have say shot a 60 shot qualification. The next round is the forty shot one like the GVM and after that it is a sixty shot one as in the nationals. Doesn't this mess up one's rhythm? Unless one makes it a habit to shoot both in one hour 15 minutes?
How would you play it?
Regards,
Dev
Excellent question, firstly it also tells me that you are making good progress from the way you are thinking.
There are several aspects to your question, regarding how to approach a 40 shot match and then tune into the next match which would be a 60 shot match. These are stamina (both mental & physical), intensity, timing and rhythm.
1. Timing:
I will address timing first. Assuming that, you take 10 minutes for sighters, you should then be in a position to complete approximately 35 shots within the next 50 minutes. You then have only 5-10 shots to go for the last 15 minutes (40 shot match).
From the above , you can infer that a series should take you roughly under 15 minutes. The same timing should be maintained for the 60 shot match. Obviously, in practice sessions, this timing MUST be adhered to.
2. Stamina (Physical & Mental)
It is always recommended to shoot (even in practice) a minimum of 90 shots, sticking to the above suggested timing. Off course, course corrections and thought inputs may extend this timing, but one should stick to the series timing as closely as possible. This way, physical stamina should not be a problem.
Regarding mental stamina, there are a few things one should keep in mind
(a) Brook no interruptions during your practice sessions, anything which breaks your thinking (related to your shooting, specifically shot cycle) should be avoided at all costs.
(b) To increase your mental intensity, break your series into 5 shot mini series. Then set yourself a goal of shooting two 10s, in each mini series. Do not relax if you shoot more than two, if you do, then you will find many 5 shot series going past you, without your shooting a single 10.
(c) Once you have achieved the ability to shoot all your 5 shot series two 10s per 5 shots, then you can up the ante gradually. Start by shooting at least two 5 shot series (out of 18- for 90 shots) with three 10s . And so on.
(d) The above is easier said than done because, you must analyze your errors after each training session and put into practice remedial measures for correcting the same in separate practice sessions devoted to ironing out errors.
3. Rhythm:
A shooter is said to be in rhythm, when he shoots strings of 10s, with consistent ease. This phenomenon, is observed intermittently, by most shooters, who train seriously ( 3hrs a day) for a year at least. The million dollar question is, How does one get into it?
To attain rhythm, a shooter has to work hard on attaining a fair degree of mastery and control, on all elements of the shot cycle. And he must stick to his timing (discussed above) at all times.
Regards
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Hvji Guruji,
Thank you for the detailed reply. Your tip on shooting five shot sequences helped immensely, specially during a match. I will have to go through what you have written on timing a few more times.
Secondly after training regularly for six months I can attest that the box sets, your version of the dry firing exercise is the most important thing to practice.
In fact since I am short of time most days all that I did towards the end was dry fire one day say sixty or eighty times. the next day would be 40-50 live fire, breaking each sequence into five shots. I will try to get two tens in every five shots from now on.
The secret of how to train more effectively clicked when a coach named Ruslan Diatlov explained his 80/20 principle in target talk. I suddenly understood what you were explaining. My total training time was an hour three days a week. I'm sure that committing more time would help to improve the score by another ten points.
Thanking you again,
Dev
Thank you for the detailed reply. Your tip on shooting five shot sequences helped immensely, specially during a match. I will have to go through what you have written on timing a few more times.
Secondly after training regularly for six months I can attest that the box sets, your version of the dry firing exercise is the most important thing to practice.
In fact since I am short of time most days all that I did towards the end was dry fire one day say sixty or eighty times. the next day would be 40-50 live fire, breaking each sequence into five shots. I will try to get two tens in every five shots from now on.
The secret of how to train more effectively clicked when a coach named Ruslan Diatlov explained his 80/20 principle in target talk. I suddenly understood what you were explaining. My total training time was an hour three days a week. I'm sure that committing more time would help to improve the score by another ten points.
Thanking you again,
Dev
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
Dear hvj1 guruji and dev - thank you both for the important tips.
One off the side Q - Nowadays I practice with a used FWB P34 - am thinking of getting me an IZH-46M due to price factor and trade the FWB in. Should I go for it or continue with FWB P34 ?
One off the side Q - Nowadays I practice with a used FWB P34 - am thinking of getting me an IZH-46M due to price factor and trade the FWB in. Should I go for it or continue with FWB P34 ?
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting
Hello AGN
Try out the IZ yourself for an extended period of time, then decide.
Best Regards
Try out the IZ yourself for an extended period of time, then decide.
Best Regards