India to develop new carbine

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Source: The Firearm Blog

The Indian state run Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and state owned Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) have developed a new carbine for the Army which The Times of India reports will soon be adopted by the India Army. The Milap carbine, as it currently called, is expected to cost Rs 50,000 ($1,110).

The weapon was supposed to be developed in association with Singapore Technologies Kinetics, makers of the SAR-21 assault rifle, but STK was blacklisted by the Indian government after a corruption scandal.

The Milap will be part of the Army's Futuristic Infantry Soldier As a System (F-INSAS) upgrade. According to Soldier Systems, the weapon willk be modular and be able to use 5.56mm, 7.62mm and purportedly 6.8mm ammunition.

Full article here at The Times of India

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[jonahpach]

Absolutely Fantastisch! What happened to its state of the art INSAS, EXCALIBUR, MINSAS etc.. which cost the exchequer crores of rupees in R&D? Outdated before proper induction already?? tch tch.. shame shame

Please read the comments by Pierangelo Tendas below the post "India to develop new carbine" at http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011 ... w-carbine/

Just what I suspected long ago, and just what our prestigious DRDO and OFB lackeys would do.. Are we proud of it?? On top of it, they cant even do a simple copy properly!

Pierangelo Tendas (PT-The Italian Commie)on 31 May 2011 at 10:38 pm link comment
Dearest gentlemen, I have to state… STK blacklisted for corruption by the Indian government my a**.

Sorry to use this kind of language, but it’s a well-known fact in the gunwriters and defense analysts sector, as well as within the industry, that the Indian government has an almost unique way to supply the DRDO (Indian Defense Research & Development Organization) and IOF (Indian Ordnance Factories, also known as OFB) with new technologies.

Basically, this is how it works.

When the Indian Armed Forces issue a solicitation for any kind of new product, the company that wins the contract, or whose product is in any other way selected for adoption, will sign agreements with a high-rank, and usually elder, official of the Armed Forces.
As soon as the first batch is delivered, the samples are turned in to the DRDO and IOF/OFB for examination, to see whether the existing technologies in possession of the Indian industries would allow reverse-engineering and local manufacture of the product.
If the thing is feasible, the “corruption scandal” manoeuver starts. The above-mentioned elder official “confesses” to have been paid by the foreign company to “ease” the adoption of their product, and is quickly retired; the foreign company is blacklisted; as per Indian law, the government retains the already-received batches without paying; and the local industry starts unlicensed reverse-engineering and manufacturing.

They did it with the South-African 20mm DENEL NTW anti-matériel rifle (now made by the OFB as the “Widhwansak”), they did it with the Israeli TAVOR (now known in India as the ZITTARA), and they will now do it with a mix of the FN F-2000 and the SAR-21, which will be known as the F-INSAS. I am afraid, and I have told my friends in Beretta about this, that the newly-launched Mx4-Storm sub-machinecarbine, whose first customers will be the Indians, might fall victim of the same curse. The only technologies that still foreign countries can fairly safely export to India without fear of local illicit cloning are those very high-tech products (mostly coming from China and Russia nowadays) for whose manufacture still India has not fully developed capabilities.

[nagarifle]

Absolutely Fantastisch! What happened to its state of the art INSAS, EXCALIBUR, MINSAS etc.. which cost the exchequer crores of rupees in R&D? Outdated before proper induction already?? tch tch.. shame shame

INSAS GATE deep pocket needs deep money

[prashantsingh]

Absolutely Fantastisch! What happened to its state of the art INSAS, EXCALIBUR, MINSAS etc.. which cost the exchequer crores of rupees in R&D? Outdated before proper induction already?? tch tch.. shame shame

not to miss the Light Combat Aircraft and the Arjun tank.

[jonahpach]

oops was editing while nags was replying.. long time no see nags

[MoA]

[cottage cheese]

Yet another one.... forget INSAS and the multitude of foot notes 'developed' by our boffins, what about the Tavor? wasn't it supposed to be the establishment's 'uber-cool' tool of choice? and the rather lame attempt at peddling the 'zittara'?

What could be so technologically and tactically different between the SAR21 and the Tavor?.... when countries like Peru develop utterly original ideas like the FAD assault rifle, its a matter of shame that our DRDO/ARDE charlatans with such mammoth R&D facilities available, that we are still trying to shoe-string our way to 'glory'... 'reverse-engineering' (some losers are actually proud of that?) and pirating....pah what a joke. We'll never get anywhere.

[winnie_the_pooh]

I just got a photo of the new carbine along with an even shorter version

[cottage cheese]

I just got a photo of the new carbine along with an even shorter version

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...Oh come off it WTP ... Not everything is within reach. One step at a time. Our great scientist will eventually get there... we need to be realistic of our capabilities...

[winnie_the_pooh]

CC,

You would have noticed that these are schematic drawings.They will soon develop a prototype.This is going to be a highly sophisticated firearm.Main features

1.A stock
2.A barrel
3.A trigger
4.A highly refined firing mechanism

and the most important one

5.Ability to fire a variety of projectiles not dependent upon the calibre.The short barreled version is particularly suited for Extreme Close Quarter Combat or X.C.Q.B.

[eljefe]

You forgot the operative word-
HI POWER
RAH RAH RAH
If it had been TWO lock stock and smoking barrels, maybe we could have called it a Guy Ritchie special?

[The Doc]

First the "Anmol" revolver and now the "Milap" carbine, can anyone tell me who is the genius at DRDO/OFB responsible for these brilliant names or do those guys simply have a black sense of humour ?

best,
Rp.

[eljefe]

The3y have 'Najaiz' the PC, generate names randomly

[The Doc]

The3y have 'Najaiz' the PC, generate names randomly

Fair enough !

So whats next, Anamika SLR ?

best,
Rp.

[eljefe]

SLR's my all time fav RP. Not much they could screw up there.TGIF