Watson brothers Shotgun

[shooter]

They also built a 700 NE double rifle designed to fire lower powered ammunition than the standard 1000 grain at 2000 fps loading for a leading African PH who used it to make a few videos and then promptly sold it off.

The one who let's the animal choose it's destiny?

Its nice to see that even back then we has discussions about "animals choosing their destiny" and the "expensive videos".

Its also good to see the members' attitude to the same.

[indigo_indo]

these guns are good but only purpose they solve to the people who are super rich and have a issue , where to spend their money ... we cry about indian gun dealers charging extra heavy profits and see the guns with pund sign instead of inr......

still money is money and not to be wasted....

i feel proud to own my modern o/u under price tag of 35,000/- and will solve my purpose of home defense and security in a better way as i need not to appoint a security guard to guard this type of a fortune.....

in the end of the day i will say " angrez logon ke angrezi shounk " and nothing else....

[Vikram]

Indigo,

You do realise that someone would be saying the very same things you said about others' interests,don't you?Different strokes for different people.


Best-
Vikram

[Sakobav]

Indigo

Best gun is always the one a person owns and then these are eye candy something to drool over.
This link provides a link to what Indian shotty makers can atleast attempt to make a decent shotgun its doable even if not at the same standard as Watsons..

Cheers

[shooter]

dear Indigo everyone is entitled to ones opinion but i would like to point out that one of the driving principles of a free market is demand and supply.

And as long as we have people who are content with inferior products, the market will not improve and we shall continue to have topics like "shame on indian ordnance" etc etc.

Secondly also note that guns like watson brothers et al arent what the average british people ("angrez") have.

In fact most British havent even heard of them.

These are products that supply a niche which is composed of People the world over including non whites for eg. arabs.

its like saying whats the point of having a Rajs Ravi Varma on thw wall when you can have a rs 100 poster of salman khan with his shirt off; they both decorate the wall.

And why an o/u? A sxs is cheaper and will serve the same purpose of self defence. so why waste money on that.

I also read in a magazine that many

[peterdk]

these guns are good but only purpose they solve to the people who are super rich and have a issue , where to spend their money ... we cry about indian gun dealers charging extra heavy profits and see the guns with pund sign instead of inr......

still money is money and not to be wasted....

i feel proud to own my modern o/u under price tag of 35,000/- and will solve my purpose of home defense and security in a better way as i need not to appoint a security guard to guard this type of a fortune.....

in the end of the day i will say " angrez logon ke angrezi shounk " and nothing else....

got a bit of anglo envy going on here ?
watson brothers make nice handbuildt guns, these come at a premium, like everything else in life that involves skilled hand labor, you dont get a ferrari at the price of a tata, get over the envy and just enjoy the craftmanship. on a second note the watson brothers work might be a better investment money vise in the long run

honestly if you gun was made in india in mordern times, you might have to consider buying a sword to be standing next to the shotty in case it misfires and you actually need to protect yourself

best

peter

[captrakshitsharma]

Peter i do see and will not deny that indian guns leave a lot to be desired. There is no comparison between even a run of the mill commercially made english gun or any european or even american guns. The bespoke guns are in a different league. What our man is trying to say is that at the price he is happy with his indan make over and undergun which i feel is still priced higher than the rest of the world for an inferior quality product.
He just says he is happy with his purchase of an honest working gun in the indian gun market context and that some thing like a watson bros gun does not appeal to him probably considering the price of these guns. However where he is wrong is to say its a waste of money. I firmly believe you get what you pay for and if u desire a beautiful bespoke gun of fantastic fit and finish you have to dish the dough out , i also stand by your statement that these guns are great investment and i go even further to say are and will be collectibles and heirlooms.

I however do feel you have a rather strong anti indian gun and gunsmith sentiments. Most indian guns lack a lot in fit and finish and quality department and cost a fortune compared to world market but most of them work pretty honestly and are reliable. They do fire at the click of the trigger and do not have to be hurled as rocks in self defense situations . So i think you were a lil brutal and a lil overcritical of our forum member's gun.

Regards
Rakshit.

[peterdk]

rakshit

my last remark was very much tounge in cheek, hence the smiley, with that said i still have to see just one of the gunmakers that frequent these pages, stand up and state which steel alloy they use in their barrels and action, so far nobody has said anything, and the only one i have talked to dont even have the slighest knowlegde about how the discharge of a cartg. put stress on the surrounding area, there are several different forces that come into play, but besides one which is the easiest one to calgulate and control he had no idea about the rest, but were happily designing a new shotgun for the indian market.

so honestly i think i was actually polite and just made a quick pun as a return remark to his anglo tidbit, some of your company's actually do make good swords, as long as you state which steel you need in the blade.

best

peter

[captrakshitsharma]

You maybe right about the Gunmakers and companies.. but i still vouch for some good old tradesmen.. the good guys are not on forums like these they are not computer and net savvy but they have been doing work for generations and are mostly into repair work and run small family run gun smith stores

[herb]

There are also lot of unknown folks making very high quality guns. Problem is since they are all handmade and the amount of labor that goes into making a quality gun, the cost can be very high because of the prevailing hourly rates of skilled craftsman. Not sure if such skills can be nurtured and rewarded in a country like India where hunting is non existent and guns are considered a killing machine rather than a tool or a piece of art.

Checkout the quality of the guns made by my gunsmith. He is relatively unknown but to a few discerning customers. He lives 20 minutes drive from my house and does all shotgun work for me.

http://www.nickmakinson.com

Checkout the gallery...

Herb

[shooter]

good one herb.
good to know the birmingham makers are making their mark across the pond too.

[Bespoke]

Herb,

I heard about Nick Makinson few months ago when someone posted his website on another forum. I like the .600 NE sidelock with Bulino engraving on his website.
There are quite a few renowned master gunmakers like Martin Hagn ,David Trevallion immediately comes to mind , who have moved across the pond.

[shooter50]

Watson Brothers does make great guns, Once fired a single shot chambered for the original 450 Rigby cartridge. Was a beauty, but i guess this new company is different. There is a point in what has been said, most of these guns are over embellished, and those why buy them do it more to flaunt their wealth than to shoot. As I said on another forum one trip to the jungles and these weapons come out looking totally different !!

[Bespoke]

The best guns are used in bush quiet often and if one don’t throw it around carelessly all the time they come out looking the same.