Want to see the Illogic They Use?-Be Scared

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Re: Want to see the Illogic They Use?-Be Scared

Post by hamiclar01 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:34 am

thind_aman wrote: You're just arguing. For the part regarding self defense, you don't have to be sarcastic, I know very well why we need guns for self defense.

Anyways, I would rest my point here, because there is no point in useless argument when you are not even trying to understand the other side.
I'm surprised. I have been following this discussion with interest, and I have yet to see YOU come up with any good arguements. GBM has pretty lucidly, with examples , stated his case convincingly.

Or is it YOU who doesn't want to change or understand his viewpoint?
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Re: Want to see the Illogic They Use?-Be Scared

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:04 pm

You agree to certain things that she says? That means that you do not agree to certain other things that she says,right? This is exactly the sort of divisions that these people have been able to use to get gun bans introduced in Australia,Uk and Canada.Divide the gun owners and use the backing of some to give legitimacy to their demands.These people have the backing of George Sorros and thus have no shortage of resources.

They failed in Brazil. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4368598.stm

They failed in Switzerland http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... ogle.co.in

Incidentally thind_aman the Swiss do own machineguns and in infact are provided one by the government.Full auto's have been banned in USA and can be retained only under the grandfather clause.

Now Rebeca Peters is here,the world largest democracy,to get this rammed down our throats to lend legitimacy to their global gun ban campaign that shall eventually ban all hand guns and all guns that can shoot over hundred meters.Infact they would like to ban gun ownership by civilians all together.

So if any one thinks that this is not going to affect him,he is living in a fools paradise and one day the roof is going to come crashing down on his head and he will have no one to blame but himself

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Re: Want to see the Illogic They Use?-Be Scared

Post by captrakshitsharma » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:16 pm

Exactly WTP people sit on their Ar*** and hope things will happen and cunning lawmakers and politicos keep changing them quietly. Let us for once not let PC take away our gun rights please do some thing. Unite and join NAGRI.. if wehave numbers we can hold demonstrations and have bargaining power in terms of votes. Trust me the politicos will listen when they know a good deal of votes are at stake.. please have as many people fill out these NAGRI forms , or we will be next like UK where our handguns will be taken away and sooner or later we will be prohibited from owning any weapons, just as easy for PC as he has easily stopped issuing licenses and all india validity.
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Re: Want to see the Illogic They Use?-Be Scared

Post by nagarifle » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:16 pm

Gents and ladies if any, article 21 states "person" and not citizen thus Article 21 would apply to any stranger residing in India as well.

Article 21. Protection Of Life And Personal Liberty: No person shall be deprived of his life or personal liberty except according to procedure established by law.
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Post by goodboy_mentor » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:53 pm

Yes you are correct "person" in Article 21 does not have to be citizen. It can be any person including citizen or non citizen.
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