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Post by eljefe » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:14 am

Grumpy,
Mannlicher as in 2007.Maybe Yadav will strike gold with something newer? ;)
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Re: Wanted a good 30-06 rifle

Post by Grumpy » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:24 pm

The only proprietory Mannlicher Schoenauer calibre that I can think of is the 6.5x54 - to my knowledge only M-S rifles have been chambered in the calibre.
As I said, Mannllicher Schoenauers from the M1924 onwards were occasionally chambered for the 30-06..........VERY occasionally - I don`t think that I`ve ever seen an example in the UK.
The 30-06 is a standard chambering in the current Steyr Mannlicher range.

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Re: Wanted a good 30-06 rifle

Post by Mack The Knife » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:37 pm

Steyr Sportwaffen, the company that makes Steyr sporting rifles is owned by Anschutz these days. Anschutz owned 51% after a takeover in 2001 or 2002 and recently the owner of the remaining percantage of shares sold his stake to Anschutz.
Mehul,

Could you verify this. The figure of 51% is correct though.

As far as I know, Steyr split into Steyr Sportwaffen and Steyr Mannlicher, the former only makes air-rifles and air-pistols, whilst the latter only makes firearms. Unless, there has been a very recent change - as in the last few months.

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P.S.: Think I misunderstood your post. I thought you were refering to firearms as well when you said, "Steyr Sportwaffen, the company that makes Steyr sporting rifles..."

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Re: Wanted a good 30-06 rifle

Post by Grumpy » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:55 pm

Asif, if he manages to acquire one of the current Steyr Mannlicher range he`ll be a lucky guy..............The current SBS range of rifles which includes the Pro Hunters etc are cracking rifles and very accurate but I would have thought that they would be mega money in India !

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Re: Wanted a good 30-06 rifle

Post by mehulkamdar » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:18 pm

Grumpy,

The Mannlicher Schonauers have beenc hambered in other Steyr proprietary calibres like the 8x56 and 9x56 Steyr as well IIRC. Of coursem they chambered the guns in a number of sporting calibres like the Mauser x57 rounds, the 30-06 based US rounds all the way upto 458 Winchester until the factory burned down. The Mannlicher Collectors' Association has regular discussions on the various different models, scarce factory engraved examples etc on their website.

Mack The Knife,

Sorry about the conbfusion about the various rump sporting arms divisions of the Steyr company. There are two Steyr Divisions now AFAIK with Steyr Daimler Puch owning the military and handgun division and leasing the name to Anschutz for all non military products and match firearms. No idea how long this would last considering that the Erich Schoder company makes fine M-S type rifles these days.

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Re: Wanted a good 30-06 rifle

Post by Grumpy » Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:32 am

"Sorry about the conbfusion about the various rump sporting arms divisions of the Steyr company. There are two Steyr Divisions now AFAIK with Steyr Daimler Puch owning the military and handgun division and leasing the name to Anschutz for all non military products and match firearms. No idea how long this would last considering that the Erich Schoder company makes fine M-S type rifles these days."
I don`t see what relevence Erich Schroder making M-S type rifles has to Anschutz owning the Mannlicher name as Steyr Mannlicher/Mannlicher don`t make a Mannlicher Schoenauer action and haven`t done since the fire.......which is many years ago now. As it happens, Anschutz are a company desperately in need of some R&D input as they`ve been taking a lot of bad publicity for the poor quality and poor value for money of many of their rifles. A kick up the Anschutz rear is just what they could do with.
I`m aware that alternative calibres to the 6.5x54 M-S are available in later variations of the M-S Mehul but none of them are exactly common......and the 30-06 is decidedly uncommon ! I know of a 7mm and an 8 mm available in the UK at the moment. There were a couple of 9.5mms but both of those appear to have been sold. Something else that is a little peculiar is that I only know of one take-down M-S at the moment - that, as you might suspect, is a 6.5x54.

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Re: Wanted a good 30-06 rifle

Post by mehulkamdar » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:37 am

Grumpy,

Anschutz own the Steyr sporting arms factory but not the name - that has only been permitted to them under a royalty agreement by Steyr Daimler Puch who own it. Rumours are that Schoder is likely to persuade Steyr to let him use the name.

BTW I just did a quick search and found several M-S rifles in 30-06 on sale on various US websites including these consequtively numbered full stock carbines on Gunbroker: http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=65836619

Morris Hallowell has a nice rifle in 30-06 for sale though it is no longer listed on his website and so do quite a few others. There are many old Mannlichers kicking around in India in all kinds of chamberings including 30-06. They were not as widely available as Mauser actioned rifles were but they do come up from time to time.

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Re: Wanted a good 30-06 rifle

Post by Grumpy » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:58 am

I didn`t doubt that there would be a selection of 30-06 M-Ss available in the US Mehul......you still couldn`t say that they were common though.
I reckon that the matter of M-S is irrelevent. The rifles haven`t been available for years so it makes no difference to Anschutz/Mannlicher if the Mannlicher Schoenauer name is licenced to someone else.

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